Reply to: I keep getting calls for permie positions...

[Peter Loew]

What about you?

Mate that's quite a story! I liked your 'under pressure line'.

Well, mine actually went really well. It was supposed to last 45 mins but at the end of it the interviewer wanted me to meet his superior right away rather than wait for a second stage. Had a good chat with her and she seemed keen. The role sounds good, and location is great, and package is decent for a permie. But again... it's not a contract and as such I have that reluctance swimming in the back of my head.

The agent called me back that same evening and said they were very pleased with me and asked if I can wait till the end of week for an answer as they are interviewing someone else tomorrow and they don't want to loose me as the potential man. All very positive but I am a contractor!!!!!! Ahhh!

Top that off I got another permie interview about a 20 min walk from where I live on Monday!

Also just had a phone interview for a fixed term contract, and just had a call for another PM interview tomorrow (contract) which I am also keen on. So what I have to do now is juggle them all and see what comes out on top.

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[XperTest]

'at least this is a very good example of me performing under pressure!'.

Sorry for this, but

[scooby]

Hey Scooby, how did it go, are you considering?

I had an absolute nightmare! short story is the bloody sat-nav decided to tell me i was at my destination, when i was clearly doing 90mph on the outside lane! luckily gave myself a good extra half hour, and tried to call the guy 15min before the interview. 5 mins past the interview time, and i called him again. he called me back about 5 mins later, and the would-be line manager talked me in to the office. i was 20mins late! not good for a PM proving he can plan! 45mins in to the interview that i think went very well, and the receptionist came and pointed out that i'd parked in the wrong car park, in the wrong space, blocking someone and i had to move it.

I moved it and on return all i could say was 'at least this is a very good example of me performing under pressure!'. should get call back today, but not massively hopeful. Altho i'm still not sure i would want to go back to perm just 4mths after leaving. i've had several calls and my agency have offered me an extension, but on a different part of the programme...

will let you know the outcome tho!

What about you?

[Peter Loew]

Thats going to be my approach.

Hey Scooby, how did it go, are you considering?

[TheFaQQer]

Hmm.... seriously, has anybody ever done such a thing?

I left my consulatancy permie job for a locally based permie job, with the vision of staying a while. After 14 months, I got itchy feet again, so went contracting - by which time I'd had lots more experience that increased the chances of decent contract roles.

Question: Do you guys know if it is possible to negotiate a contract if a company is looking for a permie? For example if they like me and want to hire me, would it be possible to ask them to give me the equivalent salary and benefits as a day rate and turn it into a rolling contract rather than a permie job?

Yes, it's possible. Have the interview and see if you like the look of the place before considering it though.

[scooby]

After the offer I'd say. No point discussing payment options before they've decided they want the goods.

Thats going to be my approach.

[thunderlizard]

After the offer I'd say. No point discussing payment options before they've decided they want the goods.

[Peter Loew]

That's what I am going to do, but do you think it is worth discussing such a thing during the interview question period or after you get an offer?

If during it may decrease your chances of getting the offer...

[scooby]

i was approached direct by the client after i applied for a contract, who phone interviewed me then asked about what it would take to make me perm. i gave him a minimum figure, he came back with a bigger one, plus tech training, bonus and car allowance etc. overall package he talked about was nearly equivlent to contacting money but with priceless training ina global growing company.

i am going for interview, but will be talking about taking it as a contract with a possible view after x amount of time...

Always worth the conversation.

[thunderlizard]

Yes of course you can try and convert the job into a consultancy contract, if it's that kind of job. Clients try it on in the other direction all the time.

[Peter Loew]

cheers and good luck if you go for it!

i'm having interview regardless to check the setup of the perm... must admit, i'm slightly tempted.

Cheers good luck to you too.

But like I previously asked, do you think we could ask our respective potential employers to offer the same kind of package as a day rate? Hmm...

[scooby]

cheers and good luck if you go for it!

i'm having interview regardless to check the setup of the perm... must admit, i'm slightly tempted.

[Peter Loew]

This isnt in Stockport is it? i've an interview there tomorrow for the same sounding type of package... am v tempted i must admit, but only because i'm still on my first contract, and the wife is due our first in September and i'm getting the jitters due to no call backs etc... applied for a couple of roles nearer home, but they appear to be tulipe agencies with no comms skills.

I do have this contract till end of July, but its murdering me. i'm doing nothing and i feel like i'm wasting away. would the 2 week notice period go against me for new contracts?

This is not Stockport... I am based in London area. No I don't think it would go against you, you don't even have to say you finished prematurely.

[scooby]

OK so, I get almost just as many calls for permie jobs as I do for contracts even though I have specified everywhere that I am only interested in contract work. This one job came up which I have an interview for tomorrow... and it's two streets away from where I live!

50k-ish role... what do you guys think - shall I use them to get all my PRINCE2 certs then go off contracting again?!

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This isnt in Stockport is it? i've an interview there tomorrow for the same sounding type of package... am v tempted i must admit, but only because i'm still on my first contract, and the wife is due our first in September and i'm getting the jitters due to no call backs etc... applied for a couple of roles nearer home, but they appear to be tulipe agencies with no comms skills.

I do have this contract till end of July, but its murdering me. i'm doing nothing and i feel like i'm wasting away. would the 2 week notice period go against me for new contracts?

[Peter Loew]

Hmm.... seriously, has anybody ever done such a thing?

It is very tempting, but like you say Tazman, I have just finished my first contract which lasted for 9 months, although I am well financially, I want more.

But this could be an easy way to get more experience for my contracting future.

Question: Do you guys know if it is possible to negotiate a contract if a company is looking for a permie? For example if they like me and want to hire me, would it be possible to ask them to give me the equivalent salary and benefits as a day rate and turn it into a rolling contract rather than a permie job?

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