Reply to: Lib Dems pledge to cancel Brexit if they win general election

[sasguru]

As a remainer I can say the EU is not the best thing in the world but it the best the UK can get. The EU has many flaws but the other member countries get around them without a fuss. If only 1% of the effort and money put into Brexit was spent on reforming the EU, I think most people would be happy.

My gripe with the EU is that since 1980, the trend for support has moved from small business towards large corporates. Many Brits were very much against the CAP that favoured small farms that are found mainly in France and some other EU countries. I thought the CAP subsidies were a good thing as it guaranteed work for the rural communities, it meant that we had quality food and a reliable supply of food be it slightly more expensive. Supporting large conglomerates results in less tax revenue, fewer jobs, poor quality service, poor quality food and poor health.

The fact that DB can buy a rail franchise in the UK and use the profits to subsidise German railways (DB) is not the fault of the Germans but the fault of the gross incompetence of the UK government.

Let's stay in the EU and work with like-minded people in other EU countries.

Flipping 'eck. A thoughtful post on Cuk. Who'd a thunk it?

[Paddy]

Either,
(a) UK new membership fee will be so large (no rebate) that they will give exemption in return for big fee
(b) EU is best thing in the world and can do no wrong, all hail the Euro !

UK Win either way :-)

As a remainer I can say the EU is not the best thing in the world but it the best the UK can get. The EU has many flaws but the other member countries get around them without a fuss. If only 1% of the effort and money put into Brexit was spent on reforming the EU, I think most people would be happy.

My gripe with the EU is that since 1980, the trend for support has moved from small business towards large corporates. Many Brits were very much against the CAP that favoured small farms that are found mainly in France and some other EU countries. I thought the CAP subsidies were a good thing as it guaranteed work for the rural communities, it meant that we had quality food and a reliable supply of food be it slightly more expensive. Supporting large conglomerates results in less tax revenue, fewer jobs, poor quality service, poor quality food and poor health.

The fact that DB can buy a rail franchise in the UK and use the profits to subsidise German railways (DB) is not the fault of the Germans but the fault of the gross incompetence of the UK government.

Let's stay in the EU and work with like-minded people in other EU countries.

[AtW]

Either,
(a) UK new membership fee will be so large (no rebate) that they will give exemption in return for big fee
(b) EU is best thing in the world and can do no wrong, all hail the Euro !

UK Win either way :-)

So much whining in the last 3 years

[Platypus]

New members will be required to join EURO zone too

Either,
(a) UK new membership fee will be so large (no rebate) that they will give exemption in return for big fee
(b) EU is best thing in the world and can do no wrong, all hail the Euro !

UK Win either way :-)

[Mordac]

Can always have a referendum to rejoin the EU

Where's me mint sauce...

[CryingSheep]

Although with the economic decline UK will suffer they might be afraid they might have to rescue it...

[CryingSheep]

New members will be required to join EURO zone too

That will be the cherry on top of the cake for the EU!

[AtW]

Can always have a referendum to rejoin the EU

New members will be required to join EURO zone too

[CryingSheep]

Vote to cancel brexit after it's already been delivered by the 31st October? i.e. before the GE.

Can always have a referendum to rejoin the EU

[Hobosapien]

Vote to cancel brexit after it's already been delivered by the 31st October? i.e. before the GE.

[Zigenare]

Lib Dems were consistent on the matter and it’s in their interest to continue to do so - this is a very rare case when political party’s self interest is aligned with some voters.

Gratis.

[jamesbrown]

Lib Dems were consistent on the matter and it’s in their interest to continue to do so - this is a very rare case when political party’s self interest is aligned with voters.

[AtW]

Lib Dems were consistent on the matter and it’s in their interest to continue to do so - this is a very rare case when political party’s self interest is aligned with voters.

[Platypus]

I would be be very wary until they actually put it down in writing on their official election pledges that they will revoke Brexit.

Like Labour and the Tories did in 2017, promising in their election pledges to honour the referendum result? e.g. (as I'm sure you remember) "No deal is better than a bad deal" ?

Remainers still bleat that the referendum was advisory (wasn't there a thread about this on here recently?) and that election pledges shouldn't be honoured, so why trust the LD's?

I think they'll get a few more seats and then support a minority Labour government in coalition. That'll be interesting when it comes to the socialist policies being advanced by John McDonnell and Comrade K's apparent Eurosceptic tendencies

Fun times

Update: LDs say they won't prop up a Corbyn government.

[SimonMac]

In fairness it's a good move by them, they have long established themselves as the remain party.

I think they will pull more votes away from Labour/Conservatives than the Brexit Party will, maybe enough to get them into a coalition