Originally posted by darmstadt
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The fishing quotas allocated to EU member states are actually based on what the fishermen were actually fishing in their national waters in the 1970s, before the CFP. So we shouldn't have lost out.
But, and its funny that the Leave campaign never bothered to mention this, in the 1970s the British fishermen were actually busy fishing in Icelandic waters, "stealing" their fish. As a result, British fishermen didn't actually catch all that much British fish and we ended up with a lower proportion of EU fishing quotas as a result. Iceland banished our fishermen in 1976.
It should also be noted that the UK's overall share of the EU's fishing catch is, I believe, the third highest share of any EU member state, behind Spain and Denmark.
Eurostat - Tables, Graphs and Maps Interface (TGM) table
In response to the fishing trade related questions, I found this UK govt published set of stats for 2015
Fishing industry in 2015 statistics published - GOV.UK
"Exports of fish decreased by 12 per cent to 443 thousand tonnes compared with 2014. Over the same period, 681 thousand tonnes were imported, a fall of 6 per cent."Leave a comment:
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As I said, your mileage may vary depending on your viewpoint. I don't see them as threats myself, but agree that the language and approach used was poor.Originally posted by Jog On View Post
Here's a contrary position for a remainer to take: if, as you say, they had run a better campaign and Remain had won, would anything have changed for the people that matter? And I don't mean being in the EU, but for those people that just wanted to give Cameron and Osborne a bloody nose, if the result had been say 52/48 the other way would the government have sat up and realised that there were/are real issues to be dealt with internally within the UK? I suspect not.
Remainers have a go at Theresa May for taking 52% and extrapolating it up to 100% for a hard Brexit, but I suspect that if the results were reversed Cameron/Osborne would have taken that as 100% approval of austerity and there would have been little change within the UK to deal with that.
Until we vote in a better standard of representation, we have the politicians and the government that we deserve. On both sides of the house.Leave a comment:
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Both sides lied manipulated but remain threatened, which people rejected:Originally posted by meridian View PostI think this goes into the "give one in the eye to Cameron" bucket. Ironically (and your mileage may vary here depending on your viewpoint) they were then manipulated, lied to, and deceived by the leave campaign. There was no ying without yang in the referendum campaign, and that goes both ways.
Can't stand Trump myself but the one decent thing he's done in office was to cancel TTIP.
Where is it now? Coming to a US-UK trade deal near you, real soon
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If they had run a better campaign they probably would have won.Leave a comment:
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Hear, hear!!!Originally posted by Paddy View Post
Not like the snivelling bremoaners who suck greedily on the EU teat, forever being treated like the runt of the litter who should be grateful for any morsel thrown their way!
Thank ***** we're heading out of that tulip!Leave a comment:
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And they just keep coming...
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Video @ 00:57 "... one of the reasons I voted leave was because I had a belief in the country..."Leave a comment:
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This may be a narrow minded selfish woman, but what about JRM who's only reason for backing Brexit are his hedgefunds, making millions of profit in a hard brexit scenario, he doesn't give a fook whatsoever about taking controls, stopping immigration etc, just his personal wealthOriginally posted by darmstadt View PostLeave a comment:
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