This is an interesting if slightly long read

[OwlHoot]

There's been a lot of talk about how Brexit (like Trump) was a marker of the way ordinary people had become alienated and angry. Brexit was an opportunity to stick it up the status quo, the ruling elite, the winners who rode the success of 21st capitalism. 'We' (the skilled Middle Class) thought things were challenging but we were getting by and our kids were doing well even if everything was a lot harder for them than it had been for us. Our houses didn't get burgled that often and our car insurance wasn't too inflated by massive insurance fraud scams etc. The NHS wasn't too bad especially if every now and again you paid a few thousand to get an operation done that seemed to be interminably delayed on waiting lists.

Then suddenly we get whacked in the face. Half of our fellow citizens have revealed they are not at all happy. And to show their unhappiness they are going to put a bomb under the complex, delicate web of necessary interactions with our overwhelmingly important neighbours.

They may well, in retrospect, have had grievances we weren't paying attention to. Articles like the ones quoted speak to this point and there is a lot of validity in what they say.

However, don't push this too far. Whatever the social unrest that was behind this you can't ignore or forgive the utter stupidity of voting Brexit. It damaged us. But it damaged the 50% less privileged even more. Brexit doesn't solve anything whatsoever. It doesn't privide a single, solitary benefit. That kind of destructive protest is just mindless. And there simply is no excuse for that.

How the heck do you know any of that, when Brexit has barely started yet? All you're doing is projecting your own fears.

Also, for all the admissions from Remainers that "we should have noticed discontent building" and similar, if Brexit was magically cancelled then you can be sure everything would carry on exactly as before.

[Cirrus]

There's been a lot of talk about how Brexit (like Trump) was a marker of the way ordinary people had become alienated and angry. Brexit was an opportunity to stick it up the status quo, the ruling elite, the winners who rode the success of 21st capitalism. 'We' (the skilled Middle Class) thought things were challenging but we were getting by and our kids were doing well even if everything was a lot harder for them than it had been for us. Our houses didn't get burgled that often and our car insurance wasn't too inflated by massive insurance fraud scams etc. The NHS wasn't too bad especially if every now and again you paid a few thousand to get an operation done that seemed to be interminably delayed on waiting lists.

Then suddenly we get whacked in the face. Half of our fellow citizens have revealed they are not at all happy. And to show their unhappiness they are going to put a bomb under the complex, delicate web of necessary interactions with our overwhelmingly important neighbours.

They may well, in retrospect, have had grievances we weren't paying attention to. Articles like the ones quoted speak to this point and there is a lot of validity in what they say.

However, don't push this too far. Whatever the social unrest that was behind this you can't ignore or forgive the utter stupidity of voting Brexit. It damaged us. But it damaged the 50% less privileged even more. Brexit doesn't solve anything whatsoever. It doesn't privide a single, solitary benefit. That kind of destructive protest is just mindless. And there simply is no excuse for that.

[Paddy]

http://www.compassonline.org.uk/wp-c...s-Oct-2018.pdf

What a load of tripe!

[sasguru]

http://www.compassonline.org.uk/wp-c...s-Oct-2018.pdf

From a socialist website.

If Brexiters think they're going to get socialism from the likes of JRM and Johnson, good luck with that

[original PM]

http://www.compassonline.org.uk/wp-c...s-Oct-2018.pdf