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Previously on "The Irish Problem"

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    "Ancient Greek geographers depicted the Irish as a savage population living in miserable surroundings"

    So nothing much has changed then?
    They must have gone to Scotland by mistake...

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    Well... That didn't take too long, did it?
    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Nor should it.
    6 minutes

    must do better.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    Well... That didn't take too long, did it?
    Nor should it.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    "Ancient Greek geographers depicted the Irish as a savage population living in miserable surroundings"

    So nothing much has changed then?
    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Gammon xenophobia doesn't appear to have changed. I suspect it comes from post-imperialist guilt and a sense of inferiority.
    Well... That didn't take too long, did it?

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    "Ancient Greek geographers depicted the Irish as a savage population living in miserable surroundings"

    So nothing much has changed then?
    Gammon xenophobia doesn't appear to have changed. I suspect it comes from post-imperialist guilt and a sense of inferiority.

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  • original PM
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    "Ancient Greek geographers depicted the Irish as a savage population living in miserable surroundings"

    So nothing much has changed then?

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
    Should this not come under the heading

    What Did The Romans Never Do For Us?

    What Did The Romans Never Do For Us?

    Gratis...

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  • Yorkie62
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    Did the Romans invade Ireland?
    Should this not come under the heading

    What Did The Romans Ever Do For Us?

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    I'll take a look. Thank you.

    So far everything I've read points at "Did a little trade, did some pottering around, hooked up with a disgruntled exiled Irish Prince. Didn't get round to invading due to pressing matters at home." <-- My paraphrasing.
    And that is probably a reasonable consensus view, but the matter is far from settled. The Drumanagh fort compulsory purchase has been completed and it will be good to see what turns up. It's not too far down the road from me, so I'm hoping it's interesting.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    If you are interested, you probably want to read 'Roman Ireland'. Not read it myself, but I understand that it makes a case for invasion. There is no definitive proof either way.

    The academia.edu link was showing a British Archaeology article.
    I'll take a look. Thank you.

    So far everything I've read points at "Did a little trade, did some pottering around, hooked up with a disgruntled exiled Irish Prince. Didn't get round to invading due to pressing matters at home." <-- My paraphrasing.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    Academia.edu is not a university or institution for higher learning.

    Is a similar paper available elsewhere?
    If you are interested, you probably want to read 'Roman Ireland'. Not read it myself, but I understand that it makes a case for invasion. There is no definitive proof either way.

    The academia.edu link was showing a British Archaeology article.
    Last edited by Old Greg; 2 July 2018, 12:04.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    You obviously don't know much about Roman history or historiography and the associated challenges in ascertaining with certainty historical facts. Take a look at the footnotes to the wiki link I provided and you will see that there is a lack of clarity about the matter. One of the footnote links is broken so I have provided a link here:

    Yes, the Romans did invade Ireland | Richard B Warner - Academia.edu

    It is the kind of topic that academics will debate, but it is unlikely to be resolved one way or another.
    Academia.edu is not a university or institution for higher learning.

    Is a similar paper available elsewhere?

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    To you, obviously. Try a little more reading with regards to your new homeland.

    The phrase "As Rome’s Continental conflicts escalated, the invasion of Ireland was suspended indefinitely." might help.
    You obviously don't know much about Roman history or historiography and the associated challenges in ascertaining with certainty historical facts. Take a look at the footnotes to the wiki link I provided and you will see that there is a lack of clarity about the matter. One of the footnote links is broken so I have provided a link here:

    Yes, the Romans did invade Ireland | Richard B Warner - Academia.edu

    It is the kind of topic that academics will debate, but it is unlikely to be resolved one way or another.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    It's unclear.
    To you, obviously. Try a little more reading with regards to your new homeland.

    The phrase "As Rome’s Continental conflicts escalated, the invasion of Ireland was suspended indefinitely." might help.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    Did the Romans invade Ireland?
    It's unclear.

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