Originally posted by Maslins
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I had this problem. They let me off being late when I made manual payment. Second payment after setting up went out via DD without a problem.
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Originally posted by Maslins View PostYou need to set up the direct debit BEFORE submitting the VAT return. I've witnessed quite a few times where someone submits their first VAT return and sets up the direct debit in the same online session, but if they submit the return first then (at the point it was setup) no direct debit was in place.
Got caught there as well, the message they show upon the completion of the DD setup is truly misleading, glad I decided to double-check it today, so I still have time to pay it manually before the due date. Waiting time on the phone was about 10 minutes.
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Originally posted by SuperZ View PostI tried to call HMRC three times today, morning, early afternoon and 7:40pm (hoping they'd be quite just before closing). Each time after hearing a long recorded message, the automatic service just stated "we are very busy right now, please call again later" - not even a queing service available they simply disconnected the call.
So the government can piss a lot of money away on some crappy projects etc yet one of their own revenue collections services is piss poor beyond belief.
Sod 'em, they'll get the monday Wednesday - they kiss my if they try to penalise my company
Hopefully you'll find the same.
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Originally posted by SuperZ View PostI tried to call HMRC three times today, morning, early afternoon and 7:40pm (hoping they'd be quite just before closing). Each time after hearing a long recorded message, the automatic service just stated "we are very busy right now, please call again later"
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I tried to call HMRC three times today, morning, early afternoon and 7:40pm (hoping they'd be quiet just before closing). Each time after hearing a long recorded message, the automatic service just stated "we are very busy right now, please call again later" - not even a queing service available they simply disconnected the call.
So the government can piss a lot of money away on some crappy projects etc yet one of their own revenue collections services is piss poor beyond belief.
Sod 'em, they'll get the money Wednesday - they can kiss my if they try to penalise my companyLast edited by SuperZ; 20 April 2010, 09:29.
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Originally posted by Sockpuppet View PostIf you've made a manual payment what acc no did you send it to (last 4 digits will do) as they changed the accounts about 4 months ago.
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Originally posted by The Wikir Man View PostWould be nice if they popped something up on the screen that said that the next payment needed to be done manually, but at least I didn't get charged anything for being late.
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Originally posted by Maslins View PostIf it's for the VAT quarter ended 28 Feb 10, the direct debit should've been taken on 10 April 10. I very much doubt it's simply late and will come out any time now.
You need to set up the direct debit BEFORE submitting the VAT return. I've witnessed quite a few times where someone submits their first VAT return and sets up the direct debit in the same online session, but if they submit the return first then (at the point it was setup) no direct debit was in place.
You'll need to pay this one manually (online bank transfer is fine) and the direct debit should work fine from next quarter onwards.
Would be nice if they popped something up on the screen that said that the next payment needed to be done manually, but at least I didn't get charged anything for being late.
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If you've made a manual payment what acc no did you send it to (last 4 digits will do) as they changed the accounts about 4 months ago.
Just to make sure you've got the right one.
To be honest I've found the vat guys helpful. Under submitted my VAT return by £1000 once (typo) and they were stella about it. Sorted in under 2 hours.
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I personally think its best to keep as much control as possible.
Like someone said, if they do it wrong it would still be your fault so best to be in control.
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Cheers.
I've made the manual payment. After digging around the HMRC website I found a piece that stated DD has to be created 5 days before filing a tax return to automatically pay. THe HMRC VAT pages never actually stated that when I setup the damn DD, or if it did, it wasn't clear (probably some small text somewhere). I remember when I created the DD, the site just accepted it without any further messages - a prompt to inform user that the DD won't be used if return already filed would be nice. WHen I created the DD I did see one message that stated the DD must be created by the 10th day of the month to enable automatic payment the following month, and this I did.
Will give 'em a call tomorrow.
Will laugh like hell (or cry!) if they also take DD paymentLast edited by SuperZ; 18 April 2010, 17:16.
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If it's for the VAT quarter ended 28 Feb 10, the direct debit should've been taken on 10 April 10. I very much doubt it's simply late and will come out any time now.
You need to set up the direct debit BEFORE submitting the VAT return. I've witnessed quite a few times where someone submits their first VAT return and sets up the direct debit in the same online session, but if they submit the return first then (at the point it was setup) no direct debit was in place.
You'll need to pay this one manually (online bank transfer is fine) and the direct debit should work fine from next quarter onwards.
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Originally posted by SuperZ View PostI signed up for the online VAT processing and used the direct debit option to keep it simple, to ensure I don't miss any payments. Today I checked my account balances and they've not drawn the amount I owe for the VAT period ending 28/02. I checked with my bank and yes the direct debit has been setup.
When I used the direct debit option on the HMRC website I found it lacking in information. BUt somewhere I read that they draw the money 3 days after it's due. However, it's now the 18/04 so should have been paid before now.
Anyone else had issues with this, are they just slow in taking the payment? I wasn't supposed to make the first payment manually or something was I, before the direct debit method kicks in when the next VAT return is submitted?
If you submitted your VAT return online (I assume you do it online?) before signing up for direct debit it may well be an issue. It used to be the case that direct debit only worked going forwards.
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