Reply to: Flexible working

[DimPrawn]

What is all this talk?

Employers, Unions, rights, policies, trusts.....

Sounds like Communism to me....

[Old Greg]

OG - showed this thread to my wife and it put a smile on her face.

We have spent this afternoon producing a response to them. I can see the sweat forming on the face of her manager and HR bod already......!!

Have a great weekend!

Will do - they forgot to renew my contract today so I am a gentleman of leisure.

[Mustang]

OG - showed this thread to my wife and it put a smile on her face.

We have spent this afternoon producing a response to them. I can see the sweat forming on the face of her manager and HR bod already......!!

Have a great weekend!

[Old Greg]

She is - but she has been at this hospital for 4 years and has had to fight for every single course and seminar she has been on and that doesnt amount to much!! They wanted her for the experience gained in London hospitals as a locum and when she came out to "the sticks" they wanted to pigeon hole her, not develop her and force her to teach. She did it once and then refused stating it wasnt in her contract.

She has experience in a key area of U/S and wanted to set up a team to allow the department to do this scanning but they refused her and promoted one of their "pets", set her on a training course and now she is attempting to set up a similar team.

Personally, I think she would be better off out of the hospital - she would certainly be MUCH happier!!!

Thanks for your support OG.

No probs - hospitals 'in the sticks' can be great but can be terrible. One of the difficulties is there's nowhere else you can go and it's full of people who've worked there for 1000 years and haven't forgotten how Vera got that promotion back in '53 and it should have been mine and now I'll make everyone else's life hell to try and ease the pain of my empty life.


Good luck.

[Mustang]

into deveoling her professinal career

She is - but she has been at this hospital for 4 years and has had to fight for every single course and seminar she has been on and that doesnt amount to much!! They wanted her for the experience gained in London hospitals as a locum and when she came out to "the sticks" they wanted to pigeon hole her, not develop her and force her to teach. She did it once and then refused stating it wasnt in her contract.

She has experience in a key area of U/S and wanted to set up a team to allow the department to do this scanning but they refused her and promoted one of their "pets", set her on a training course and now she is attempting to set up a similar team.

Personally, I think she would be better off out of the hospital - she would certainly be MUCH happier!!!

Thanks for your support OG.

[Old Greg]

I agree!! :-)

She is on the phone to one of her professional bodies as I type. Her plan B is to do locum work through an LTD if she leaves, as well as take them to tribunal for constructive dismissal......!

It's a pisser though. If she's into deveoling her professinal career, it's not easy if you're self-employed, but what do you do?

[Mustang]

I agree!! :-)

She is on the phone to one of her professional bodies as I type. Her plan B is to do locum work through an LTD if she leaves, as well as take them to tribunal for constructive dismissal......!

[Old Greg]

Bastards. Has she spoken to her professional body / union? NHS HR is either evil or stupid or both, but sometimes you get someone OK so it may be worth a try.

[Mustang]

Well, my wife filled out all the forms and had her meeting yesterday. There was her supervisor and her supervisor's manager present. 2:1

There were sickly sweet and coo'ed and aah'ed at our son but aparently didn't budge an inch. Prior to maternity leave my wife worked 32 hours over 4 days and now they have said that she can drop to 3 days but she still has to work the 32 hours.

Aparently, they have 2 members of staff on long term sick leave, 1 about to start maternity leave, a mandate to give their staff longer breaks to reduce RSI and NHS waiting lists to be kept under a control. I understand their situation but it's one that has been allowed to build up due to poor management! Hardly giving my wife much flexibility!!

My wife is going to counter-offer and suggest 27/28 hours over 3 days. If they don't accept she will agree to them but then leave within 3 months.

[Old Greg]

The nursing bank is like an agency. You get a better rate and can work as and when y ou want to as they can get you roles in different areas. My ex wife uses it and does 2 days a week and gets paid more than someone doing 5....lazy cow!!!!

Locum / bank / agency - pretty much different names for the same way of working. The bank is run by the Trust (or a group of Trusts), as opposed to a privately owned agency.

[Let-Me-In]

Bank work? What do you mean? Before she took this role, my wife was a locum so she could consider doing that 3 days a week.

The nursing bank is like an agency. You get a better rate and can work as and when y ou want to as they can get you roles in different areas. My ex wife uses it and does 2 days a week and gets paid more than someone doing 5....lazy cow!!!!

[al_cam]

Firstly, it is the NHS - there is very unlikely to be any problem. I think you are worrying for nothing.

Secondly, go to the DTI website and download and the form to use to apply for flexible working - it makes it more official and she is therefore more likely to get it accepted. It also gives you guidance.

I did it when I was permie, my wife does it and I know a few others who do it - nobody that I know has ever been refused, and that is in the private sector. Like I said - worrying for nothing.

The other thing she could do is to cut some deal with them to help things along - I used to have Fridays off but agreed to take my phone so they could call me if anything happened - I only got called twice in 20 months, but it gave them the reassurance.

[Mustang]

how did it end up here?
That'll teach me to use the back button....

Beats me!!

[r0bly0ns]

Your employer is your umbrella company not the end client.

The fact you were only at a clients for 3.5 days is not important, you were never employed by the client, you were providing them a service through your umbrella company.

Your length of service will be from the day you started with your umbrella company until the day you leave it, 1 Job, no matter how many end clients you do work for through them.



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WTF??? I posted this in another thread, how did it end up here?
That'll teach me to use the back button....

[Mustang]

Has she considered doing bank work? That way she works through an agency and gets a higher salary but more flexibility...ring any bells?

My ex wife does it and she is a midwife.

Bank work? What do you mean? Before she took this role, my wife was a locum so she could consider doing that 3 days a week.