Reply to: Satellite Navigation

[THEPUMA]

It is normally SJD or Nixon Williams that you are arguing with...

I know but to be fair, I agree with them on 99% of the advice they give. I think there are only 2 or 3 issues on which we have disagreed. I just don't see the point in posting to say "Good point. I agree."

[Ardesco]

I am just advising what I would do in your circumstances and, in fact, I have not claimed tax relief on my SatNav.

Please bear in mind that I almost certainly have vastly more experience of dealing with such enquiries than the contractors on here (albeit I have never had to defend a SatNav case) which means that I am more aware of the kind of stance they are likely to take.

I haven't seen many accountants on here arguing that SatNav is allowable. Let's see what Nixon Williams and SJD have to say on the matter.

It is normally SJD or Nixon Williams that you are arguing with...

[Bluebird]

Don't forget that Sat Nav is not just a case of plan route a to b, as was pointed out with the technology to pre-empt traffic problems and re-route where required, somebody who has a "time" dependant role could justify that in order to arrive at site in a timely manner they require this functionality as part of their business even though the travel is to the same site each day.

as well as this any contractor could be expected to attend a numner of interviews on behalf of the compnay over a 12 month period - having Sat Nav on those occasions could well represent the difference between winning and losing a contract - again all business benefit...

[Nixon Williams]

Another interesting debate that goes to show many areas of what can be claimed are seldom very clear.

With regards to Sat Nav claims my view is that unless your role involved regular travel to many different and new sites then the claim would not be allowable.

Having said that, the prices are so low now that a review by HMRC would probaly ignore it unless they were having a bad day!

Alan

[Sockpuppet]

I haven't seen many accountants on here arguing that SatNav is allowable.

I've claimed it.

My accountant has also had HMRC question a client about a sat nav purchase and they allowed it.

[Bluebird]

That was in response to your "an accountant or a MSCP ?" question.

I took it that you are a Cardiff fan by your username and thought I would ask you something that you would similary as offensive.

I thought it was funny. But then I often laugh at my own jokes.

ahh right, humour - don't give up the day job !

[Jason D]

Bluebird

That was in response to your "an accountant or a MSCP ?" question.

I took it that you are a Cardiff fan by your username and thought I would ask you something that you would similary as offensive.

I thought it was funny. But then I often laugh at my own jokes.

[Bluebird]

Are you a Swansea fan or Cardiff?

[THEPUMA]

I do find it amusing that THEPUMA regulary decides to take the alternative view on everything posted on these forums.

The majority of people will say don't claim subsistance willy nilly as HMRC will come and take a big chunk off you if you are investigated, however THEPUMA says it is fine.

But when people ask abount putting sat nav through the company (which virtually everybody will agree is quite reasonable if you do a lot of driving and need to know how to get to places), he says it is not claimable.

The more I read your posts the more convinced I become that you are just trolling the forums and providing conflicting advise and trying to justify it to cause confusion here.

The logical reason for this is that I rarely feel the need to post unless I disagree with what is being said.

I do try to justify my opinions and am convinced that on both matters above (and that of NMW, on which I disagree with the majority of posters here), you would find that in the event of an investigation, the majority of HMRC Inspectors would agree with my stance.

I am just advising what I would do in your circumstances and, in fact, I have not claimed tax relief on my SatNav.

Please bear in mind that I almost certainly have vastly more experience of dealing with such enquiries than the contractors on here (albeit I have never had to defend a SatNav case) which means that I am more aware of the kind of stance they are likely to take.

I haven't seen many accountants on here arguing that SatNav is allowable. Let's see what Nixon Williams and SJD have to say on the matter.

[Jason D]

Bluebird

Are you a Swansea fan or Cardiff?

[Bluebird]

I do find it amusing that THEPUMA regulary decides to take the alternative view on everything posted on these forums.

The majority of people will say don't claim subsistance willy nilly as HMRC will come and take a big chunk off you if you are investigated, however THEPUMA says it is fine.

But when people ask abount putting sat nav through the company (which virtually everybody will agree is quite reasonable if you do a lot of driving and need to know how to get to places), he says it is not claimable.

The more I read your posts the more convinced I become that you are just trolling the forums and providing conflicting advise and trying to justify it to cause confusion here.

perhaps he is Gordo in disguise...

[Ardesco]

I do find it amusing that THEPUMA regulary decides to take the alternative view on everything posted on these forums.

The majority of people will say don't claim subsistance willy nilly as HMRC will come and take a big chunk off you if you are investigated, however THEPUMA says it is fine.

But when people ask abount putting sat nav through the company (which virtually everybody will agree is quite reasonable if you do a lot of driving and need to know how to get to places), he says it is not claimable.

The more I read your posts the more convinced I become that you are just trolling the forums and providing conflicting advise and trying to justify it to cause confusion here.

[Bluebird]

You just lost your £1.50.

Company credit card i'm afraid. As per all company expenses.

Double or nothing?

By the way I am an accountant not a contractor.

an accountant or a MSCP ?

I think we should be told....

[Bluebird]

OK then so playing devil's advocate, if you are going on a personal trip and don't know the way, are you honestly telling me you wouldn't use it? I doubt a jury would believe that.

And if they did, how can it possibly be "necessary"? People used to find their way to places before SatNav was invented. And now you have the alternative of using Multimap or some similar directions website.

I think this is one of those occasions where tax legislation and fairness do not coincide. It would be fair to claim it but you simply wouldn't win your case if you had to defend it at the Commissioners.

by using your arguement printers and computers are not necessary in some circumstanses as people "got by before"

[THEPUMA]

You just lost your £1.50.

Company credit card i'm afraid. As per all company expenses.

Double or nothing?

By the way I am an accountant not a contractor.

Oh well you win some you lose some.