Reply to: Pension auto enrollment email address

[pr1]

it's not me you've got to convince

edit - all I'm saying is that if it's just some online forms to fill in, i'm going to set it up in case I do employ people in the future - each to their own what you do

[SueEllen]

my point is it implies you have no desire to expand/employ people

You can expand without directly employing people so that argument does not work.

[teapot418]

isn't part of the contractors standard IR35 defence that we're running a genuine company and not just hiding behind incorporation for tax purposes? surely opting out of the pension thing doesn't help in that regard?

there's probably no case law yet but that's only because the pension auto enrolment hasn't really taken off across small companies yet - someone on one hand trying to say "look, look! I have the same expenses as BigCo!" while on the other hand saying "I don't need to opt in to the mandatory pensions enrolment because I'm only a one man band" is a bit inconsistent?

A one man band can be a legitimate business.

[Contreras]

my point is it implies you have no desire to expand/employ people

Not really since the decision can be easily reversed at any time. Same principle as not requiring ELI until needed.

[pr1]

You could say something similar about Working Time Directive and National Minimum Wage. The legislation acknowledges exceptions for company directors so the rules can apply differently, or not at all. That doesn't imply you're not running a business, quite the opposite in fact.

my point is it implies you have no desire to expand/employ people

[SueEllen]

isn't part of the contractors standard IR35 defence that we're running a genuine company and not just hiding behind incorporation for tax purposes? surely opting out of the pension thing doesn't help in that regard?

You can opt-out of pension auto-enrolment but it doesn't mean the company doesn't have a pension scheme for it's officers.

[Contreras]

isn't part of the contractors standard IR35 defence that we're running a genuine company and not just hiding behind incorporation for tax purposes? surely opting out of the pension thing doesn't help in that regard?

there's probably no case law yet but that's only because the pension auto enrolment hasn't really taken off across small companies yet - someone on one hand trying to say "look, look! I have the same expenses as BigCo!" while on the other hand saying "I don't need to opt in to the mandatory pensions enrolment because I'm only a one man band" is a bit inconsistent?

You could say something similar about Working Time Directive and National Minimum Wage. The legislation acknowledges exceptions for company directors so the rules can apply differently, or not at all. That doesn't imply you're not running a business, quite the opposite in fact.

[pr1]

isn't part of the contractors standard IR35 defence that we're running a genuine company and not just hiding behind incorporation for tax purposes? surely opting out of the pension thing doesn't help in that regard?

there's probably no case law yet but that's only because the pension auto enrolment hasn't really taken off across small companies yet - someone on one hand trying to say "look, look! I have the same expenses as BigCo!" while on the other hand saying "I don't need to opt in to the mandatory pensions enrolment because I'm only a one man band" is a bit inconsistent?

[CTUsr1979]

There isn't an email field on the webform here. How did they know where to send the confirmation to?

Sorry for the late response. Once you fill in the details on the first page, it will open another details page where you will be asked to provide further details.

[Contreras]

Thank you. I submitted the information via webform before 9 AM and got an acknowledgement email by 5 PM. I did ring their customer service around noon and they said the update would take a few days but it was processed on the same day.

There isn't an email field on the webform here. How did they know where to send the confirmation to?

[CTUsr1979]

Thank you. I submitted the information via webform before 9 AM and got an acknowledgement email by 5 PM. I did ring their customer service around noon and they said the update would take a few days but it was processed on the same day.

[Contreras]

Thank you for the link. Do we get an acknowledgement number or email confirming the request on the web form submission ? Sorry , I am being sceptical ( I have had problem with web form submission once in the past). On sending email, we have a record.

No.

Give them a chance. They've only just discovered web-forms.

If it bothers you send an email to customersupport@autoenrol.tpr.gov.uk using the template found here, which should get a reply.

Previous thread here - http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...enrolment.html

[SueEllen]

Thank you for the link. Do we get an acknowledgement number or email confirming the request on the web form submission ? Sorry , I am being sceptical ( I have had problem with web form submission once in the past). On sending email, we have a record.

Fill it in.

Send it.

If in 2 hours (office hours only) there is no reply then contact them.

[CTUsr1979]

Thank you for the link. Do we get an acknowledgement number or email confirming the request on the web form submission ? Sorry , I am being sceptical ( I have had problem with web form submission once in the past). On sending email, we have a record.

[TheFaQQer]

You don't have to email them any more - just go here instead and do it online.