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Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View PostCars are scarce. There is no scarcity in data. Hence why pinching cars is called theft, and copying is called, er..., copying.
That's me out of a job then.Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostThe torrent sites are realising this and moving towards a better experience, though. For example Popcorn Time, which is looking at delivering a Netflix / Lovefilm / NowTV style interface for downloads.
I'd like to think that at some stage in the future, film studios automatically release a low-quality torrent when films hit the cinemas. Those that want the experience and the quality will still go and watch at the cinema, buy the DVD / BR etc. and they'll still get the money; those that want a quick fix and aren't fussed about the quality get a reliable download in low quality (similar to getting a camera capture, maybe) that they might pay a small amount for, and the studio gets rid of the low quality stuff on torrents. Everybody wins.Comment
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Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View PostWhat does that have to do with anything? I'm not convinced that you understand what capitalism is.
If you legally allow companies to steal image rights for commercial use, why should facilitating torrents be illegal ?Last edited by MicrosoftBob; 2 May 2014, 12:45.Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.
No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.Comment
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostSo everything digital is worth zero, is that what you're saying?
That's me out of a job then.
To steal is to take & deprive someone else of their property. Property by definition but be scarce (hence why IP is a contradiction in terms) as the whole reason for the existence of the concept of property is because scarce resources can only exist in a limited number of places at the same time - normally 1. When you possess a scarce resource (and ownership is the right to decide who possesses that scarce resource) then you necessarily prevent someone else from possessing that same resource.
The sequence of data that a movie is encoded in is NOT a scarce resource (although the physical media that hosts that encoding may be). You can copy data infinitely without ever denying anyone else the possession of that same data at the same time. As such data is by definition not able to be owned.
So to get to the point - if people would never have bought the movie, and download it for free because it's free, the creators & distributors of that movie have lost nothing. If someone who would never buy a car steals one instead, the owner of that car will suffer a loss.Last edited by SpontaneousOrder; 2 May 2014, 12:53.Comment
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostBut would you GAS if hardly any films were being made because it was impossible to make any money, or even cover the costs?Comment
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Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View PostWhat does that have to do with anything?, I'm not convinced you understand what legalised theft is
If you legally allow companies to steal image rights for commercial use, why should facilitating torrents be illegal ?Comment
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Originally posted by Unix View PostNot really 90% of movies are utter tulip, and there are always a section of the population that will follow the rules and do what there told. There are maybe 2-3 films a year I go to the Cinema and watch.Comment
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Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View PostI thought popcorn time died a death about 6 or 7 years ago? Maybe it's been revived.Comment
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