Ukraine reinstates conscription

[CheeseSlice]

Wasn't he one of the lefties who was cheering on September 11th, not that I'm saying he's biased on anything or that the Guardian would write any anti American bigotry but it looks like typical Guardian racism to me...

He does seem to have taken sides. It reads like the stuff on English language Russian media.

[doodab]

I don't think it's possible to get a balanced view from any media outlet. It's a waste of time even looking TBH. All you can do is filter fact from fiction as best you can (not an easy task for the casual onlooker given the dimensions and quality of the propaganda machines at work) and apply a bit of common sense to reach your own conclusions.

Mine is that both the Russians and the EU/USA have been as bad as each other for a number of years when it comes to meddling in Ukrainian affairs. It's a geopolitical hot potato and has been since the disintegration of the USSR. The current bout of meddling looks like ending in civil war and possibly the partition of the country. I don't think it will spread beyond that.

[suityou01]

I don't think it's possible to get a balanced view from any media outlet. It's a waste of time even looking TBH. All you can do is filter fact from fiction as best you can (not an easy task for the casual onlooker given the dimensions and quality of the propaganda machines at work) and apply a bit of common sense to reach your own conclusions.

Mine is that both the Russians and the EU/USA have been as bad as each other for a number of years when it comes to meddling in Ukrainian affairs. It's a geopolitical hot potato and has been since the disintegration of the USSR. The current bout of meddling looks like ending in civil war and possibly the partition of the country. I don't think it will spread beyond that.

Thank you Doodab. A balanced post, with your thoughts clearly outlined. This I appreciate very much.

[doodab]

Thank you Doodab. A balanced post, with your thoughts clearly outlined. This I appreciate very much.

Odd that considering up till now you've accused me of suckling on western propoganda even when posting links to the moscow times

[suityou01]

Odd that considering up till now you've accused me of suckling on western propoganda even when posting links to the moscow times

And you miss this?

[doodab]

And you miss this?

Hardly

[mudskipper]

I keep reading this as constipation.

[BrilloPad]

Findus to rebrand Chicken Kiev as ‘Chicken Moscow’