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    #21
    Originally posted by foritisme
    of cricket ??


    There is no promotion / relegation. They are just like a load of friendlies - what does it matter if you win or lose ?? Why 'o Why did they get MBE's for winning one cricket match !!
    Its probally too deep for your limited attention span
    How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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      #22
      Originally posted by AtW
      The whole field is covered by cameras following the ball - how can it be possible to cheat in such situation, especially when ball gets changed?

      If 60 overs is too long, then change ball every 30, heck of 15 - it seems to me that team with such consistently high performance would not be consistently cheating as it would make it certain they get caught all the time.

      As usual AtW shows he knows nothing about sport!

      As the bowler aproaches...he picks at the seem of the ball with his finger nails....how do the cameras pick that up? Changing at 30 overs would only protect the ball from natural damage (The ball would be newer) the cheats would only cheat sooner...this would not prevent it!!

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        #23
        Originally posted by Phoenix
        this would not prevent it!!
        It would because there would be a lot less chance for ball to be damaged naturally, thus its more likely that damage would be artificial. Additionally it shoudl be made responsibility of the person who picks ball (and thus can cheat) to look at it and decide if it is damaged enough to need change - in fact perhaps umpire should check ball after every throw, and also use high-def cameras from multiple angles.

        Alternatively ball can be made of stainless steel - you cricket dudes were having it far too easy...

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          #24
          Alexei:
          They normally seems to win (at least with England) by huge margin
          No they do not. England were two-nil up in the series after thrashing them twice.
          Surely this kind of cheating can be easily caught, especially if it is known they do it all the time?
          No, it is easy to conceal scratching the surface of the ball, or picking the seam, if you are vigorously rubbing it up and down on your trousers at the time. I have done it myself (as an experiment, you understand).
          IMO such accusation is a load of bull
          How did you reach that conclusion, given that the three test-match qualified umpires at the ground, who have seen the ball, agree that the accusations were warranted?
          in this case the issue seems to be with ball damaged, well, fking change ball then every X runs and remove possible accidental or intentional damage from equation.
          Natural wear and tear is part of the game, but you'd expect that to be distributed all over the ball. Cheats will damage one side only, because that helps bowlers.

          Note to DaveB: In a test match the fielding side can change the ball after 80 overs, although they do not have to.

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            #25
            Make ball more scratch resistant then.

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              #26
              Originally posted by AtW
              Make ball more scratch resistant then.
              Or, don't cheat. And put umpires in place in order to deter cheating taking place....

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                #27
                Originally posted by djfoot
                Or, don't cheat. And put umpires in place in order to deter cheating taking place....
                Now there's an idea...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by wendigo100
                  Now there's an idea...
                  Never understood cricket, highly paid for what exactly, personally I beleive that pakistan walking out at the weekend was possibly the most exciting part of a cricket match I have seen for many moons. Will they come out again, won't they, oh the excitement, my willy nearly did a burp !

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by AtW
                    Make ball more scratch resistant then.
                    You realy dont understand do you?

                    From a bowlers point of view he wants the ball to be "damaged", but generally only in certain places. A pace bowler wants one side to be rough and the other to be smooth. This will cause the ball to turn in the air giving the batsman a more difficult target to hit or predict the line of.
                    This is why the bowlers will consistantly polish one side of the ball.
                    Scratching the other side is seen as cheating.
                    A spin bowler will rely on the roughness of the stitches to grip when it pitches (hits the ground) to change the trajectory of the ball. The rougher the stitches the better for grip.
                    Picking the stitches is regarded as cheating.
                    I am not qualified to give the above advice!

                    The original point and click interface by
                    Smith and Wesson.

                    Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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                      #30
                      Give a new ball for each run and doing anything to it apart from bowling it (and umpire should have right to stop bowler and inspect ball for any damage, presense of which automaticaly classed as cheating since its brand new ball) should be classed as cheating - there problem solved.

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