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    #21
    Obviously I'm at the English end of things and might have missed it, but could you give examples of the Scottish being "lectured" ?

    As for the Scots who vote on money not being worth it, that does seem to be the main issue, for better or worse.

    UKIP would die tomorrow if someone convinced English voters that the EU made them richer.

    Most of what I see are spending plans, often things I might support, but not really costed or paid for. It would appear that both you and I have a higher opinion of the Scottish people than do the Nats.

    I can possibly see a Scottish government being (say) 25% better at generating growth, which translates into having (about) 0.5% more money to spend each year than staying in the UK. Even then this 0.5% would not kick in this side of 2020 because a referendum in 2014 means actual independence in at least 2017 and time for the hopefully better government to take effect.

    The spending has been promised much more quickly than that.


    To do that to a mature economy would be very impressive and from decades of listening to British politicians of all ilks I have grown sceptical of the "we can pay for this through growth" argument.
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      #22
      "A majority of Scots are in favour of bein in the EU"

      Wrong, based on polling support for the EU is slightly higher in Scotland than for rUK but is broadly inline with rUK, support for leaving the EU is higher than for leaving the UK. Ironic since Alex Numpty is happy to give Scots a referendum to leave the UK but opposes one regarding the EU.

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