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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostThank you for ignoring the presented facts. Trust your instincts - it works for IDS.
Or do you think we should have perfect public services no matter what?
And you have no evidence that Cameron is a pare-it-to-the-bone ideologue. I rather suspect that his instincts are one-nation Tory except he's come to power at a bad time.Hard Brexit now!
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Originally posted by sasguru View Posthis instincts are one-nation Tory except he's come to power at a bad time.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostHe kind of looks like Al Capone..Hard Brexit now!
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostThank you for ignoring the presented facts. Trust your instincts - it works for IDS.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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My last gig was at a local authority and the working culture and sense of entitlement was absolutely shocking. In at 10-10:30, spend the day just hanging around chatting with your mates until 4-4:30 when it's home time.
Getting anything done was absurdly difficult and took about 8 times as long as it would anywhere else. Any excuse to down tools or make up some extra red tape to prevent work going ahead was jumped on. I even had one guy get up and scream at me in the (open plan) office when i had to go and see him for something as he was ignoring my emails and voicemails. Then I got dragged into a room with the programme manager who warned me not to talk to him directly about anything (don't even say hi in the corridor) as he was a serial grievance raiser and we didn't have the time or bandwidth to deal with a grievance procedure.
Turns out it's quite common for some civil servants to raise grievances about anything they can then go on 6 months paid "stress leave". Try escalating anything and management don't want to know because they don't want to deal with anything like this either.
These people have it very very easy and they've got people like Bob Crow who will fight hard and win for them. The tail wags the dog - and apparently you should pay more tax to maintain it...
The entire culture needs to be rebooted. All things said the project was to roll out a Citrix desktop so that council services could start being outsourced - and the permies knew it - and it's still going ahead
Keep it up Dave"Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon MuskComment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostYou have just spent the last half hour looking all that up in order to support a sweeping generalisation that is simply not true. I would not have put you down as one of the "money grows on trees brigade" The reason there are cuts is because we as a society pay far to much for poorly delivered public services and there is no longer any money to pay for them. Of cours as a one of the highest paid people in society why don't you pay to keep the library opeN?
I don't think public services are particularly overpriced or poorly delivered when you consider the spend relative to other countries, or in comparison with the private sector when you take into account the spend per patient or per pupil. You get what you pay for and we as a nation seem to want champagne for beer money. We need to become collectively cognizant of the fact we can only afford to shop in the bargain bin and set our expectations accordingly.
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http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...ing-per-personLast edited by doodab; 12 November 2013, 11:29.While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'Comment
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Originally posted by Jog On View PostTry escalating anything and management don't want to know because they don't want to deal with anything like this either.Comment
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Originally posted by doodab View PostThe primary reason there isn't enough money is because the British population as a whole is relatively poor (60% of workers are on benefits), and because we have wholly unrealistic expectations. We want our services to compete with the "best" but we have a lower overall tax rate (as a %age of GDP) than other countries we use as benchmarks for things like education and healthcare.
I don't think public services are particularly overpriced or poorly delivered when you consider the spend relative to other countries, or in comparison with the private sector when you take into account the spend per patient or per pupil. You get what you pay for and we as a nation seem to want champagne for beer money. We need to become collectively cognizant of the fact we can only afford to shop in the bargain bin and set our expectations accordingly.
Spending per secondary school student statistics - Countries compared - NationMaster
Spending per person statistics - countries compared - NationmasterLet us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by doodab View PostI don't think public services are particularly overpriced or poorly delivered
My experience has shown the vast majority of workers are not fit for purpose and failing the people they're being paid to serve.
All in the belief that they've got a safe easy job for life with a golden pension"Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon MuskComment
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