Originally posted by Mich the Tester
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Gutless. The stench of appeasement
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You realise that shells are designed to shatter, don't you? So what you're left with are small pieces of twisted metal. It's not solid like a bullet, which whilst it may be deformed would still normally be in one piece. -
BallsOriginally posted by Mich the Tester View PostWell, I think the whole 'destabilising the region' argument is frankly laughable in the middle East anyway. It's like saying 'let's try to avoid making the sea wet'. The place is blowing up whether we like it or not. The real issue for me is demonstrating that it was indeed Assad's forces that did this, and then sowing that it can be stopped with air strikes against military targets.
You don't add more fuel to the fire by taking the side of Al Qaeda - as I keep repeating! What you do is support those fighting terrorism - Assad/Iraq are fighting the real terrorism, the type that we saw in 7/7 and 9/11 but on a much larger scale. With that support you can then have some influence in the region and bring everybody to the table.
As extreme and opposite as that is to what the government is proposing, it is the only way to calm the region down i.e. we need to stop the instigators and source of all the violence - Al Qaeda and their sympathisers.Comment
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Do you really think the middle East can be stabilised as a result of external action?Originally posted by NorthWestPerm2Contr View PostBalls
You don't add more fuel to the fire by taking the side of Al Qaeda - as I keep repeating! What you do is support those fighting terrorism - Assad/Iraq are fighting the real terrorism, the type that we saw in 7/7 and 9/11 but on a much larger scale. With that support you can then have some influence in the region and bring everybody to the table.
As extreme and opposite as that is to what the government is proposing, it is the only way to calm the region down i.e. we need to stop the instigators and source of all the violence - Al Qaeda and their sympathisers.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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I didn't say there needs to be external action, I said we need to support those who are fighting the real enemy, not weaken them thereby strengthening our enemy even more!Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostDo you really think the middle East can be stabilised as a result of external action?
If any military action should be taking place then it should be against Al Qaeda - that is Al Qaeda in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon etc. We have seen that the people of those countries don't want them in their countries so anything we can do to help them in that objective is bound to bring about good will and the ability to actually make a difference in the region.....Comment
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It's rather more nuanced than that. Some of them support him and some of them don't.Originally posted by NorthWestPerm2Contr View PostShows just how much you know about Middle-Eastern politics! Palestinians are against the Assad Regime.While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'Comment
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Well put it this way - they certainly ain't fighting along side him in Syria! Which is what my original point was!Originally posted by doodab View PostIt's rather more nuanced than that. Some of them support him and some of them don't.Comment
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So they aren't.Originally posted by NorthWestPerm2Contr View PostWell put it this way - they certainly ain't fighting along side him in Syria! Which is what my original point was!
CNN Exclusive: On the front line with pro-Assad snipers in Syria – CNN Press Room - CNN.com BlogsWhile you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'Comment
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NoOriginally posted by Mich the Tester View PostDo you really think the middle East can be stabilised as a result of external action?
How can you stop sectarian violence anyway they've got to want to stop hating each other, and theres too many vested interests for that to ever happen in our lifetimes at leastDoing the needful since 1827Comment
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Please.... if your going to post a source the last one I would trust would be CNN.... I put them ahead of Sky and Fox when it comes to pure propaganda.Originally posted by doodab View PostComment
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