Are you a Ring Virgin?

[Dark Black]

Wagner fans are a rum lot...

[Mich the Tester]

I have done about 100 laps. Might even go this weekend if the weather behaves.

I know a bloke who's done the 24 hour bicycle race there, which is the same format as endurance car racing, teams of riders riding shifts of 2 or 3 hours. He said it's bloody scary at 35kmh on a bicycle never mind 135 in a car.

[VectraMan]

Tht's particularly true of Wagner. While Verdi (who Wagner hated) had some good singalongs, and so did Puccini, I prefer Wagner's orchestral works, in other words, the bits between the warbling and screeching.

I quite like the warbling. There should be two rules for Opera: 1. You shouldn't be able to see it, because as soon as you see the performers and the "acting" it's no different to a bad musical (Summer Holiday, or Xanadu spring to mind). And 2. it shouldn't be in a language you can remotely understand.

If you follow both of those, then it's quite a nice noise. For me orchestral music is largely tedious once you get past the "greatest hits", but I could listen to some warbling.

[ThomasSoerensen]

I know a bloke who's done the 24 hour bicycle race there, which is the same format as endurance car racing, teams of riders riding shifts of 2 or 3 hours. He said it's bloody scary at 35kmh on a bicycle never mind 135 in a car.

I usually hit 200 - 210km/h in a few places. Wan't a pax ride?