Which Game of Thrones character are you?

[MyUserName]

Ah right, I see where you are coming from now. Funnily enough I found Rob's wife more of a standard stock character in the book than in the series.

Again a transformation into a cookie-cutter, clichéd character. Dulled (dumbed) down for tv. The real power and wisdom of the Tyrells (remember how things progress in book three?) lies with the aged grandmother, not a sixteen year old girl who has no experience of life. A pretty girl getting her norks out is just cheap, as I was explaining above.

I think that the grandmother is the chief power in the series too. Remember how she handled Tyrion?

Now GoT has mostly become ponderous and disappointingly predictable; scenes are shamefully re-written to excite twelve year old viewers (look at the example of Jon climbing The Wall that I quoted and compare it to the book - was there any reason for such silliness? No. Ditto the "bear fight" ending the way it did. Or Jof filling a Whore full of arrows. And so on, and so on...)

Yes, the wall climbing scene is a good example of pointless scene where cleverness and good writing was sacrificed for a bit of 'excitement' which failed to excite. Have not seen the bear fight yet, although I thought the scene with Jof and the whore was pretty effective.

I guess I just feel the source material is strong enough to stand on it's own two feet, without the need for "dumbing down for a tv audience" interference.

Here's hoping they can get back on track in future episodes.

I guess they have 'sold out' a little and added extra fights and nudity as well as trimming down on the complexity in order to increase mass appeal, I am still enjoying the series though despite some of my favorite characters taking a temporary back seat.

[gricerboy]

Renly Baratheon here

[norrahe]

Ah right, I see where you are coming from now. Funnily enough I found Rob's wife more of a standard stock character in the book than in the series.



I think that the grandmother is the chief power in the series too. Remember how she handled Tyrion?



Yes, the wall climbing scene is a good example of pointless scene where cleverness and good writing was sacrificed for a bit of 'excitement' which failed to excite. Have not seen the bear fight yet, although I thought the scene with Jof and the whore was pretty effective.



I guess they have 'sold out' a little and added extra fights and nudity as well as trimming down on the complexity in order to increase mass appeal, I am still enjoying the series though despite some of my favorite characters taking a temporary back seat.

I think you are also forgetting that the characters in the book are waaay younger than they are portrayed in the series.


You can pick holes in the series but what works in a book will not quite work on screen, so often artistic licence may be taken, but in this case at least one of the screewriters is the author.

[nomadd]

I think you are also forgetting that the characters in the book are waaay younger than they are portrayed in the series.

TBH, that's never been an issue for me. I can only think of a handful of minor instances from the books that had to be cut because of this (i.e. like in Book 2 where Arya gets her bare bottom spanked hard with a sword - obviously not in the t.v. series as she's played by a young actress.)

You can pick holes in the series but what works in a book will not quite work on screen, so often artistic licence may be taken, but in this case at least one of the screewriters is the author.

Sure, we understand it has to be 'adapted'. But I think the fact that George Martin has so little to do with the screenplays now - he has only contributed to 3 of the current 10 episodes in series three, and even then he was only one of three scriptwriters employed - has hurt the adaptation IMHO. Still feel series one was the best, with series two being poorer, and series three poorer still. It's still perfectly watchable, but it is getting progressively watered-down and drifting further away from the spirit of the source material I feel.

Here's hoping they can improve things in the remaining few episodes of season three.

[Old Hack]

I was watching TV with my youngest the other day, and I saw Mr Tumble come on. Fat, clumsy and a bit pally with the local joeys.

Shoe in for Shaunyboy I thought

[shaunbhoy]

I was watching TV with my youngest the other day, and I saw Mr Tumble come on.

A bit highbrow for you, don't you think?
I had you down as a Tweenies man!!

[Old Hack]

A bit highbrow for you, don't you think?
I had you down as a Tweenies man!!

No, apparently they're too colourful, so she doesn't like them, she just laughs at you, sorry, the window licker mr tumble

[MyUserName]

I think you are also forgetting that the characters in the book are waaay younger than they are portrayed in the series.

Sorry, not sure why that is relevant? Although I see why they have done it.

You can pick holes in the series but what works in a book will not quite work on screen, so often artistic licence may be taken, but in this case at least one of the screewriters is the author.

Once again I am not sure what point you are making? One of the screen writers might well be the author but he is not a screen writer by trade and would only be part of the discussion over the final draft. They have holywooded it a bit and simplified the plot but I am still enjoying the series and make an effort to watch it.

[Bunk]

Sorry, not sure why that is relevant? Although I see why they have done it.



Once again I am not sure what point you are making? One of the screen writers might well be the author but he is not a screen writer by trade and would only be part of the discussion over the final draft. They have holywooded it a bit and simplified the plot but I am still enjoying the series and make an effort to watch it.

The screen is a simpler medium. If the plot wasn't simplified it would be impenetrable nonsense on screen.

[norrahe]

The screen is a simpler medium. If the plot wasn't simplified it would be impenetrable nonsense on screen.

Exactly!