England post-mortem

[AtW]

The winner is Sven who now collects a cool 5 MILLION POUNDS

That's over 5 years...

[chunkymonkey]

wonder if he got caught for IR35?

[mcquiggd]

I wonder if has Professional Indemnity Insurance...?

Perhaps the sweet FA should sue him for negligence.....

[chunkymonkey]

maybe someone will take out a civil suit against him, he did say that england should have gone at least to the semi-finals?

[wendigo100]

Summary? Poor leadership, Owen got injured, and the attacking midfield didn't work properly. For 2008:

Robinson - keep
Neville - keep
Ferdinand - keep
Terry - keep
A Cole - keep
Beckham - defenestrate!
Hargreaves - keep
Gerrard - not with Lampard
Lampard - not with Gerrard
J Cole - hmmm
Rooney - keep
Owen - get him back
Crouch - hmmm
Carrick - third in queue behind Gerrard and Lampard

Sven - defenestrate!

[the guy with the bowtie]

Defenestration in popular culture ...

With thanks to wikipedia ....

Film
In Reefer Madness (1936), Blanche, the dealer, defenestrates herself out of guilt.
In Cinderella, (1950), Bruno the dog defenestrates Lucifer the cat.
In Diamonds Are Forever (1971), henchmen working for Ernst Stavro Blofeld defenestrate Plenty O'Toole.
In A Clockwork Orange (1971), Alex fails in his attempt to defenestrate himself from the hospital.
In The Exorcist (1973), the devil defenestrates Burke Dennings, and Father Karras defenestrates the devil/himself.
In The Eagle Has Landed (1976), the patrons of a pub defenestrate Liam Devlin.
In Die Hard (1988), John McClane attracts the attention of Sgt. Al Powell by defenestrating Marco, and later defenestrates Hans Gruber, the leader of the "terrorists".
In Child's Play (1988), the first victim of the movie, Maggie (the babysitter) is defenestrated on Chicago's north side Lincoln Park, from the apartment's windowed tower.
In Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989), Indiana Jones defenestrates a Nazi officer from a Zeppelin.
In Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves (1991), Friar Tuck defenestrates a Bishop, after accusing him of corruption.
In Braveheart (1995), Longshanks (King Edward I) defenestrates his son's High Councillor, Philip.
In Toy Story (1995), Sheriff Woody accidentally defenestrates Buzz Lightyear.
In Hannibal (2001), Hannibal Lecter defenestrates Rinaldo Pazzi.
In Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (2005), Mace Windu is defenestrated through Chancellor Palpatine's office window by Palpatine's force lightning.

[threaded]

And just about every cowboy movie ever made.

[zeitghost]

In "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly", Tuco Ramirez (Eli Wallach) defenestrates himself.

Lucky it was a ground floor window...

[expat]

As a Scot, I'm sorry you went out. Especially the way it happened. It just didn't look like being honestly beaten at actual football, by a better team: it looked like bad luck.

OK, the English would have been unbearable for the next 40 years if they had won the tournament, but I still shouted for them.

Don't lower your expectations. Scotland will qualify for the world cup tournament from time to time, but will never win. It would be unrealistic to expect a truly world-beating team to come out of Scotland. England is different: English football ought to be capable of producing at least from time to time a world-beating team. So you have every right to ask, why didn't we beat the world this time.

Before the match, when we heard the ref identified, my GF said, oh well, it's all over then. No comment.

[AtW]

Before the match, when we heard the ref identified, my GF said, oh well, it's all over then. No comment.

The ref was not responsible for missed penalties and saves that did not happen.