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    #51
    Originally posted by The Spartan View Post
    Training is just that though training and when you face people who can torture without conscience or fear of reprisal then you're totally fooked, so what if some squaddie urinated over a few POW's the fact of the matter is given the reverse he would no doubt tortured to death.

    During the conflict in the Balkans male soldiers were raped and consequently contracted HIV from it, not sure if this received any public attention though.
    I do agree with your comments on training and public awareness of the reality of war.

    Just one of those things, I asked a lot of questions and tried to put myself in his shoes. But if you haven't walked the walk and saw life through their eyes, really its all academic.... I've seen a normal, full functioning, social man fall to absolute pieces on occassion over the most irrelevant thing, physically crumble. PTSD and the reality of war is often overlooked...

    But thats enough from me on this topic!

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      #52
      Originally posted by Dallas View Post
      That scene in GI Jane (yes whatever - cr@p film) where towards the end he attempts to rape her

      shudder
      Wife loves that film.
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        #53
        There is only one reason to have a military and that is to win. Everything else is just fluff. So would an army with women in the front line win more, or would they win less.
        All other things being equal, would you rather be facing the Iraqis, Chinese, Algerians ,Americans, Gurkhas ?

        It does matter. some enemies are ferocious and some are pussies.

        If the enemy was female, which way would that balance be shifted ?


        Then you have to look at the history. Female combat units have been formed before, the Russians had a few battalions as did the Zulus, but they were for propaganda, not for fighting. The Israelis had some female combatants, and a battalion of female infantry, but I am not sure if they are still in service


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          #54
          Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
          Then you have to look at the history. Female combat units have been formed before, the Russians had a few battalions as did the Zulus, but they were for propaganda, not for fighting. The Israelis had some female combatants, and a battalion of female infantry, but I am not sure if they are still in service
          Don't jump down my throat but didn't the Russians also have some female snipers and tank operatives?
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            #55
            Originally posted by MyUserName View Post
            Don't jump down my throat but didn't the Russians also have some female snipers and tank operatives?
            probably. If you try hard enough, you will be able to find examples and exceptions everywhere, like the females who served as gunners on HMS Victory, disguised as men.

            My point is, if this is to be a sytematic decision, what will be the effect on morale ?
            If I was in fear of my life, I want the guy on the other side to be a pussey and so rubbish that he will run or surrender or miss. Even if he is not a pussey, all that matters is that I think he is


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              #56
              Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
              My point is, if this is to be a sytematic decision, what will be the effect on morale ?
              If I was in fear of my life, I want the guy on the other side to be a pussey and so rubbish that he will run or surrender or miss. Even if he is not a pussey, all that matters is that I think he is
              Don't get me wrong, I was not arguing with you. I actually agree. I was asking purely out of interest.
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                #57
                You do see this in kid's football. Stick a girl in the team, and none of the lads will attack her wholeheartedly. Maybe it's the blokes that are soft!

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
                  You do see this in kid's football. Stick a girl in the team, and none of the lads will attack her wholeheartedly. Maybe it's the blokes that are soft!
                  Now if it had been rugby they would've all been fighting each other to tackle her lol
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
                    You do see this in kid's football. Stick a girl in the team, and none of the lads will attack her wholeheartedly. Maybe it's the blokes that are soft!
                    Watch this in hockey. Put a boy on the team and the girls try to break his ******* neck.

                    We played mixed hockey for exactly 2 PE lessons before it got cancelled, both ended with trips to hospital - one requiring eye surgery.
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The Spartan View Post
                      Now if it had been rugby they would've all been fighting each other to tackle her lol
                      She would have been exposed to some tackles, no doubt!
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