Benched/Going Permie poverty food

[minestrone]

Protein fallacy.

[minestrone]

I need to drop a couple of stone to do the races next year.

It is going to be a nightmare to be honest.

[Mich the Tester]

Protein fallacy.

You sure?I was always advised to get about 2 grams of protein per kg bodyweight when doing strength training, and that protein helps in recovering from training. That's a lot of protein and if you try to get it from veg you'll have to eat truly fartatious amounts of beans, so it's much easier to eat some extra meat.

[Mich the Tester]

I need to drop a couple of stone to do the races next year.

It is going to be a nightmare to be honest.

Mix hard interval training with long distance work and avoid sugars; just get complex carbs and proteins. And yes, it'll be a nightmare if you're doing it right. Best of luck with that.

[minestrone]

You sure?I was always advised to get about 2 grams of protein per kg bodyweight when doing strength training, and that protein helps in recovering from training. That's a lot of protein and if you try to get it from veg you'll have to eat truly fartatious amounts of beans, so it's much easier to eat some extra meat.

See, I don't know, I read Eat & Run recently about a vegan ultra runner who is a trained physio and he was pretty adamant that you do not need the level of protein described. Different sport though from where you are.

I was on a 100 mile a week schedule early in the year and went for a protein shake twice a day to see what it would do, my times plummeted.

[minestrone]

Mix hard interval training with long distance work and avoid sugars; just get complex carbs and proteins. And yes, it'll be a nightmare if you're doing it right. Best of luck with that.

I need to get super lean for the 50 milers but if you are not eating enough you can't train, it is a paradox.

[Mich the Tester]

See, I don't know, I read Eat & Run recently about a vegan ultra runner who is a trained physio and he was pretty adamant that you do not need the level of protein described. Different sport though from where you are.

I was on a 100 mile a week schedule early in the year and went for a protein shake twice a day to see what it would do, my times plummeted.

Yep, different demands to rugby, but I think a decent comparison is with racing cyclists; they drink a shake immediately after long rides which contains about 3 to 4 grams of carbs to 1 gram of protein, which seems to work and makes sense. Purely carbs or purely protein perhaps won't help.

[Mich the Tester]

I need to get super lean for the 50 milers but if you are not eating enough you can't train, it is a paradox.

Yep. Not easy; when I first dealt with a dietician in rugby and had to eat a lot of pasta and chicken, I complained I was hungry all the time and just couldn't pile in enough food. Her answer; 'if this isn't working and if you feel you need it then there's nothing wrong with an extra steak, but make sure it's steak, not cake'.

[Sysman]

Blimey, you were rich.

Baked beans. Rice.
You can live on it for years....

Yikes I must have been rich "too", though I recall being rather poor at the time.

We ate much better than that.

[Mich the Tester]

Right, well, Lady Tester's off at her tennis match so I'll go and finish off that bottle of wine I opened for the poverty food.