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[Lockhouse]

Are HSBC still using Notes?

[darmstadt]

Well since they own it they are hardly likely to use a competing product are they.

Why not? They don't use OS/2 as a desktop although you have the option of their Linux desktop (but based on Redhat) But yeah, you're quite right many tech companies don't use Lotus Notes but then again it wasn't originally designed as an e-mail client but as a groupware product.

[Sysman]

Notes seems to survive in those industries where technology is not part of the end product. Manufacturing, engineering, mining and quarrying all seem to use Notes by default ( at least every client I've worked with in those areas has).

As a mail system it's pretty crap, as a shared services systems it's actually pretty good. Knock up a bespoke application or a database, drop it into the Notes system and it's available for everyone with Notes access to use. It's got some good features for collaborative working etc. The problem is most people don't bother with any of that, they just use it for email.

I liked Lotus Notes when we had it, and it was extremely good where someone had taken the effort to implement the collaborative stuff you mention. I used it for keeping logs of what I'd done to which systems.

That got replaced by some flavour of Outlook which crashed all over the shop and mangled emails, and none of us were impressed.

[DieScum]

When I was at IBM using Lotus for email was just terrible. Random crashes, killnotes.exe, dying over the vpn. Must have knocked a few hours of productivity off an average work week.

"Is email down for you, as well?"
"Let me check - nope not working for me either... oh wait... no, no, it's hung..."

Pretty much every day.

Odd that that would be allowed for something so business critical.