Why europe is doomed

[DodgyAgent]

FTFY.

Seriously though, can anyone imagine countries in Europe ceeding powers of tax/spending to the Germans in the long-term?

It will have to happen. One thing is that most citizens of Euro countries are totally fed up with the ineptitude of their opwn politicians that I reckon they would gladly hand over financial control to the Germans. Given that the alternative is austerity whether it be staying in the Euro or coming out of it the voters will approve.

[AtW]

Number of votes should be directly related to amount of tax paid ...

[DodgyAgent]

Number of votes should be directly related to amount of tax paid ...

You are becoming a bit of a self righteous and self important pri*k

[AtW]

I reckon they would gladly hand over financial control to the Germans.

Germans quite reasonably ask to spend only what people earn - want to spend more than earn more, that should be the only way. It's not German financial control - it's common sense that majority of Govts lost because it was much easier for them to borrow rather than have good policies that result in actual wealth increase.

[AtW]

You are becoming a bit of a self righteous and self important pri*k

I take it you are not paying much tax eh?

Perhaps votes should be split into annual tax bands:

Fook all tax paid - 1 vote
10k tax per year - 2 votes
20-50k tax - 4 votes
50-200k tax - 8 votes
200-1 mln tax - 16 votes
>1 mln - 32 votes.

If the rich vote in laws that reduce tax they pay then they'll lose their votes and get fooked in next elections.

[DodgyAgent]

Germans quite reasonably ask to spend only what people earn - want to spend more than earn more, that should be the only way. It's not German financial control - it's common sense that majority of Govts lost because it was much easier for them to borrow rather than have good policies that result in actual wealth increase.

So you have no borrowings then? personally or otherwise.

[AtW]

So you have no borrowings then? personally or otherwise.

Zero.

I think it's acceptable to take on mortgage as long as it is not overextending person (if it can be fairly easily repaid within 15-20 years).

Some "bridge loans" also justifiable economically and loans to extend business operations assuming there is clear way to do so rather than speculative hope it would work.

Other than that debt should be strongly discouraged - using tax system as well, right now when my company buy servers necessary for our operations we have to pay corp tax on them as if it's some kind of profit, but if we leased them that would be legit expense. It's bollocks system that encourages empty shell of companies that have no assets.

I would have thought somebody like you who adores Thatcher would understand what ownership really means.

[DodgyAgent]

I take it you are not paying much tax eh?

Not unless I have to

[DodgyAgent]

Zero.

I think it's acceptable to take on mortgage as long as it is not overextending person (if it can be fairly easily repaid within 15-20 years).

Some "bridge loans" also justifiable economically and loans to extend business operations assuming there is clear way to do so rather than speculative hope it would work.

Other than that debt should be strongly discouraged - using tax system as well, right now when my company buy servers necessary for our operations we have to pay corp tax on them as if it's some kind of profit, but if we leased them that would be legit expense. It's bollocks system that encourages empty shell of companies that have no assets.

I would have thought somebody like you who adores Thatcher would understand what ownership really means.

What about 21 years? My mind doesnt work according to a set of binary rules like yours does.

[escapeUK]

I take it you are not paying much tax eh?

Perhaps votes should be split into annual tax bands:

Fook all tax paid - 1 vote
10k tax per year - 2 votes
20-50k tax - 4 votes
50-200k tax - 8 votes
200-1 mln tax - 16 votes
>1 mln - 32 votes.

If the rich vote in laws that reduce tax they pay then they'll lose their votes and get fooked in next elections.

Why should people who pay nothing get any say in how the money collected is used? Zero tax = zero votes in my book, id do the same with public sector workers too.