Originally posted by k2p2
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The term racist is used too often
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Originally posted by SupremeSpod View PostDon't talk sh!te.
"They should've known better" - for whatever reason they either didn't know better or did and chose to ignore the warning signs.
I'll ask it differently for him.
Do you think they deserved it?What happens in General, stays in General.You know what they say about assumptions!Comment
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Originally posted by SupremeSpod View PostDid they specifically target "white" girls? The answer appears to be "yes". Therefore surely it can be deemed as a "racially motivated crime".
I think the motive was sexual. White girls were targetted because a) you don't tulip on your own doorstep, and b) they're easier targets due to the reasons people have mentioned.
If I decide to rob people for money and I pick old ladies, is my crime ageism?Comment
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Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostWhat a logically crap argument you've presented there. Little Spod must be hitting the keys. Go and get your dad.
I'll ask it differently for him.
Do you think they deserved it?
As a child, were you ever told "Don't accept things from strangers"?
Do you think these girls might have been told exactly the same thing, at least one of them?Comment
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Originally posted by SupremeSpod View PostThe Police have repeatedly said that the crime wasn't "Racially Motivated". However, "The Ramadhan Foundation" have accused Pakistani Community Leaders of "burying their heads in the sand" (White girls's muff, shirley?) over the street grooming of white girls. Spokesman Mohammed Shafiq said: "There is a significant problem for the British Pakistani community and there should be no silence in addressing the issue of race, as this is central to the actions of these criminals. They think that white teenage girls are worthless and can be abused without a second thought - it is this sort of behaviour that is bringing shame on our community."
Well Mr Shafiq, full marks for having the balls to come out and say that in public.Last edited by Support Monkey; 9 May 2012, 07:27.Comment
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Originally posted by k2p2 View PostRace was a factor. Was it the motive though?
I think the motive was sexual. White girls were targetted because a) you don't tulip on your own doorstep, and b) they're easier targets due to the reasons people have mentioned.
If I decide to rob people for money and I pick old ladies, is my crime ageism?Comment
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Originally posted by SupremeSpod View PostNo, of course I don't and they "should've known better".
As a child, were you ever told "Don't accept things from strangers"?
Do you think these girls might have been told exactly the same thing, at least one of them?Comment
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Originally posted by Platypus View PostYou clearly can't imagine how messed these girls were BEFORE they were enticed by this gang. I suggest you do some research before accusing the girls not just of "asking for it" but wanting it. I expect that was what these men thought too.
Ok, where did I say they were "asking for it" and "wanting it"?
They repeatedly accepted gifts from strangers! They should have known better! Read the article.Comment
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Originally posted by SupremeSpod View PostRead the article.
If you had, you wouldn't talk such bollocks.Comment
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Originally posted by Platypus View PostI did, and read the extensive coverage in the Times as this came to trial.
If you had, you wouldn't talk such bollocks.
From that one statement you've assumed that I think the girls somehow deserved what happened to them. For the record I categorically do not.
Who's really to blame then?
Is it the criminals for exploiting "vulnerable young girls"?
Is it the girls themselves for not thinking "Hang on a minute, why's he giving me all this stuff"?
Is it the education system for not telling the girls to be wary of strangers who want to give you things?
Is it their parents?
Is it society as a whole?Comment
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