The term racist is used too often

[SupremeSpod]

The primary crime was paedophilia, not racism.

Did they specifically target "white" girls? The answer appears to be "yes". Therefore surely it can be deemed as a "racially motivated crime".

[MarillionFan]

Don't talk sh!te.

"They should've known better" - for whatever reason they either didn't know better or did and chose to ignore the warning signs.

What a logically crap argument you've presented there. Little Spod must be hitting the keys. Go and get your dad.

I'll ask it differently for him.

Do you think they deserved it?

[mudskipper]

Did they specifically target "white" girls? The answer appears to be "yes". Therefore surely it can be deemed as a "racially motivated crime".

Race was a factor. Was it the motive though?

I think the motive was sexual. White girls were targetted because a) you don't tulip on your own doorstep, and b) they're easier targets due to the reasons people have mentioned.

If I decide to rob people for money and I pick old ladies, is my crime ageism?

[SupremeSpod]

What a logically crap argument you've presented there. Little Spod must be hitting the keys. Go and get your dad.

I'll ask it differently for him.

Do you think they deserved it?

No, of course I don't and they "should've known better".

As a child, were you ever told "Don't accept things from strangers"?

Do you think these girls might have been told exactly the same thing, at least one of them?

[Support Monkey]

The Police have repeatedly said that the crime wasn't "Racially Motivated". However, "The Ramadhan Foundation" have accused Pakistani Community Leaders of "burying their heads in the sand" (White girls's muff, shirley?) over the street grooming of white girls. Spokesman Mohammed Shafiq said: "There is a significant problem for the British Pakistani community and there should be no silence in addressing the issue of race, as this is central to the actions of these criminals. They think that white teenage girls are worthless and can be abused without a second thought - it is this sort of behaviour that is bringing shame on our community."

Well Mr Shafiq, full marks for having the balls to come out and say that in public.

This is true across many different countries, Turkey, Morrocco, Tunisia, India, pakistan, young white (blonde) girls tend to get targeted more, mostly due to their portrayal in western Pornography which makes them appear easy or of lower morality

[SupremeSpod]

Race was a factor. Was it the motive though?

I think the motive was sexual. White girls were targetted because a) you don't tulip on your own doorstep, and b) they're easier targets due to the reasons people have mentioned.

If I decide to rob people for money and I pick old ladies, is my crime ageism?

Was it a motive, dunno. Perhaps it was just opportunity.

[Platypus]

No, of course I don't and they "should've known better".

As a child, were you ever told "Don't accept things from strangers"?

Do you think these girls might have been told exactly the same thing, at least one of them?

You clearly can't imagine how messed these girls were BEFORE they were enticed by this gang. I suggest you do some research before accusing the girls not just of "asking for it" but wanting it. I expect that was what these men thought too.

[SupremeSpod]

You clearly can't imagine how messed these girls were BEFORE they were enticed by this gang. I suggest you do some research before accusing the girls not just of "asking for it" but wanting it. I expect that was what these men thought too.

Oh FFS.

Ok, where did I say they were "asking for it" and "wanting it"?

They repeatedly accepted gifts from strangers! They should have known better! Read the article.

[Platypus]

Read the article.

I did, and read the extensive coverage in the Times as this came to trial.

If you had, you wouldn't talk such bollocks.

[SupremeSpod]

I did, and read the extensive coverage in the Times as this came to trial.

If you had, you wouldn't talk such bollocks.

For whatever reason, the girls should've known better than to accept gifts from strangers, they either didn't or they did and chose to ignore it.

From that one statement you've assumed that I think the girls somehow deserved what happened to them. For the record I categorically do not.

Who's really to blame then?

Is it the criminals for exploiting "vulnerable young girls"?

Is it the girls themselves for not thinking "Hang on a minute, why's he giving me all this stuff"?

Is it the education system for not telling the girls to be wary of strangers who want to give you things?

Is it their parents?

Is it society as a whole?