The only good kraut is a dead kraut.

[BrilloPad]

"The only good racist is a dead racist"

FTFY

[SupremeSpod]

FTFY

Now you're being racistist! You bastard!

[BrilloPad]

I love staring a contentious thread in the early evening. cuk is so predictable.

Tonight's thread will be on something involving the army - always good for a pagga.

[darmstadt]

I've met Patrick Moore a couple of times, in fact they were both in Germany and he quite liked the country then. Weirdy eyed plonker but plays a groovy tune on the xylophone...

[darmstadt]

Personally I hope someone has him up for racism or at least incitement. It seems okay to say Frog, Kraut, etc. when talking about Europeans but once you stray off of the mainland then you're considered racist (what about Paddy, Jock and Taff are they now considered racist epiphets?)

[Lockhouse]

Ok, so this guy who went away to fight the Germans at 17, lost his fiancee to the Germans, got wounded by the same Germans and got so traumatised that he will never talk about what happened....surprise, surprise hates the Germans.

I'm 50 this year. When I was growing up, most adults hated the Germans because most people or their parents had been bombed or fought them and everyone had a war story to tell. My father who spent the war as a kid dodging V1s and V2s on Plumstead Common felt the same way about the Germans as Patrick Moore. There's something about the immediacy of having experienced it or been told about it directly by people that were there that unsurprisingly carries more weight.

Notwithstanding that, time passes and live and let live. Generations die and the immediacy of that experience becomes history. Patrick Moore is an old man for whom all these events happened relatively speaking, yesterday. He's a great man, but old nonetheless.

[MarillionFan]

Yes.

We can blame that on the French.

Members of my family were killed during the Civil War by Royalists. I'll never forgive the Queen the bitch!

[Support Monkey]

I find it kind of strange that people still blame a whole countries people for things that happened over 50 years ago.

Why is it that ALL German's should now be killed when as AtW says they paid the price in full as decided at the time?

What about those people in Iraq, Afghanstan, China, huge parts of Africa whose families were also killed by British forces during various periods of the empire?

Have you also considered that not ALL Germans actually wanted war in the first place? In much the same way that Blair decided the Uk would goto war against Iraq irrelevant that a large part of the country was opposed to war and wanted official UN intervention to validate the "30 minutes to deploy weapons of mass destruction" claim. Still, the Uk went to war, it was found that the 30 min claim that was the basis on which they went to war was false and yet many lives were killed in Iraq because of these actions. Many Germans were also opposed to war but rather than simply being ignored by the government they faced death of them, their families and any associates due to the powers placed in local authorities if they spoke out against the state and did not follow the party line.

My personal opinion is those in glass houses should not throw stones. WW2 was not the last atrocity to occur, Britain is not by any means perfect in it's track record over the years in terms of war.

What Chef says, whilst we should never forget it is the english that seem to drag up the war at every oppurtunity, football, sunbeds, you name it we tar all ages with the same brush in much the same way most english think all muslims are terrorists

[BrilloPad]

Yes.

We can blame that on the French.

Strong contender for POTD - will take alot to beat that.

[BrilloPad]

WWII was the last time GB actually counted for something.

Everything since has been "the management of decline".

Apart from the Sainted Margaret & her exploits in the South Atlantic.

I think it all went down starting with the titanic.