Are we heading for a mini ice age?

[DimPrawn]

A warm planet bad, a cold planet good. Ban CO2 and tax the proles whilst they freeze I say!

BBC News - Deaths in Ukraine and Poland in freezing Europe weather

[pjclarke]

For anyone still interested, the Met Office has issued a response to the piece linked in the OP

This article includes numerous errors in the reporting of published peer reviewed science undertaken by the Met Office Hadley Centre and for Mr. Rose to suggest that the latest global temperatures available show no warming in the last 15 years is entirely misleading.[...] what is absolutely clear is that we have continued to see a trend of warming, with the decade of 2000-2009 being clearly the warmest in the instrumental record going back to 1850. Depending on which temperature records you use, 2010 was the warmest year on record for NOAA NCDC and NASA GISS, and the second warmest on record in HadCRUT3.

[KimberleyChris]

I confidently predict that this year, and every year from now on, will be the warmest on record.

You just have to make sure that you use the 'right' record.

Or, of course, it may be time to change the record. Please.

[DimPrawn]

I confidently predict that this year, and every year from now on, will be the warmest on record.

You just have to make sure that you use the 'right' record.

Or, of course, it may be time to change the record. Please.

Now the science is settled, isn't about time we stopped measuring temperature altogether and just measured tax raised as a proxy for how well we a doing in this valiant fight against climate change?

[EternalOptimist]

I think there are people still interested PJ , but they are not really buying into the 'two legs bad, four legs good' mantra any more

the old 'linkfest' barrage isnt fooling anyone any more. people are asking sensible questions, and they want sensible answers

'shut up, do as you are told, there is a concensus' isnt working any more

if it were an abstract academic question such as the causes of the first world war, i woulnt give a flying sh!te

but you watermelons are out to wreck us, and that needs dealing with

[KimberleyChris]

The biggest problem that the Global Warming Taliban face is this;

The common man went to school, and he was taught basic science and arithmetic.

Even the most lowly of us know the fundementals - if not the fine detail - of how the physical universe works.

I cannot help thinking that, given the choice, they would make 'global warming denial' a crime...in the same way that 'holocaust denial' is a crime in some countries.

There is one big difference....

Unless six million missing jews are all hiding behind a tree somewhere in Poland waiting to jump out and shout 'BOO!', then the holocaust undoubtedly happened.

Man-made global warming is a THEORY. Although a very convenient and lucrative theory for cash-strapped politicians.

[EternalOptimist]

Think what we tell you to think.
Believe what we tell you to believe.
Have faith in what we tell you to have faith in.
Do not question. anything.
You may be required, from time to time, to help the leadership crush any dissent.


It's the very definition of fascism

[DimPrawn]

Die kalte Sonne: Warum die Klimakatastrophe nicht stattfindet: Fritz Vahrenholt, Sebastian Lüning: 9783455502503: Bücher

[pjclarke]

Well guys, sorry to have got you all hot under the collar.

the old 'linkfest' barrage isnt fooling anyone any more. people are asking sensible questions, and they want sensible answers

I wish. What I see is misquotations, the same debunked zombie arguments (it's the sun....), links to the Daily Mail, the laughable Anthony Watts and other tabloid and blog science sources. Give you lot sensible answers from the literature and you get accused of fascism. Why is that ?

[KimberleyChris]

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.