Whose going to vote Labour today?

[Lucifer Box]

Even nurses 'n teachers?

Of course they will. Despite all the grumbling they know who's responsible for the size of their wage packet. More likely they will stay at home today than suddenly become Tory voters.

[benn0]

Yes, my house is now rich and my boring old job has been donated to a 3rd world country (India I think).

Thank goodness for New Labour.

New Labour, New Saviour (que Chico).

Oh dear - Out of work????

Get on your bike then.

Now where have I heard that before????

PS - I am no socialist. I'm a realist. This country has never had it so good. Ask any builder. One of the trades twatcher rode roughshod over.

Bitch.

[Fungus]

Of course.

More of the same please. Continued growth, low inflation, and close to full emplyment.

Much better than the dark days of the eighties.

A minister whose husband is being investigated for fraud.

A minister who had a relationship with a subordinate and who has been accused of sexual harassment by another ex-subordinate.

A minister - Hewitt - who is presiding over chaos in the NHS due to rushing through major changes leading to massive job cuts.

A minister who presided over the release of ~1000 foreign prisoners who should have been deported and he gave incorrect information to parliament.
A PM who led us to war on false pretences.

Several ministers - Blunkett and Prescott - who are claiming tens of thousands of pounds expenses, without adequately accounting for it.

One minister - Beckett - who is head of the farming and fluffy bunny department, who proclaims her support for Kyoto etc, and yet is the government minister who has made the most flights as part of her job, including using the royal flight. Hypocrisy?

An increase in unemployment of 1 million over the last year, partly due to unrestricted immigration from new EU countries.

We are all equal but some New Liar ministers are more equal than others. Oink oink.

[zathras]

Has hell frozen over then?

[hyperD]

PS - I am no socialist. I'm a realist. This country has never had it so good. Ask any builder.

Well, there we go. The litmus test to the economy.

Thanks for that benn0, I can safely sleep in my bed knowing my little forints and sterling are sitting comfortable because Bazzer the builder decrees "all's well cos' Gordo says we've never had it so good".

[benn0]

Well, there we go. The litmus test to the economy.

Thanks for that benn0, I can safely sleep in my bed knowing my little forints and sterling are sitting comfortable because Bazzer the builder decrees "all's well cos' Gordo says we've never had it so good".

But isn't your little litmus test based around looking after number one as well. ie minimise my tax and bugger everyone else?

[threaded]

But isn't your little litmus test based around looking after number one as well. ie minimise my tax and bugger everyone else?

You make this strange conjunction, the fact is, if not just I, but everyone else, minimise their taxes everyone else benefits as well.

The issue is that you do not understand this, which is so incrediably sad.

For example, you'd rather, instead of us, spending the money on a nice holiday, take it in taxes, and give the money direct to the leader of that country to stash away in a swiss bank account. Which, to me personally, is probably one of the most disgusting outcomes of state 'charity'.

[vista]

Obvious

Anyone?

The 52% of the electorate that labour have gerrymandered with various handouts who's only value to humanity is that they vote to keep getting handouts from the scum.

[DimPrawn]

whose

[hyperD]

But isn't your little litmus test based around looking after number one as well. ie minimise my tax and bugger everyone else?

I'll back up threaded's post: I simply do not understand why you think creating wealth as an individual automatically implies the suffering of many.

It does smell of student leftiness: once you grow up and gain responsibility, it all becomes a meaningless ideal.

Just let go of your decades of hate benn0, extinguish that black candle from your heart and move on. FFS, you guys that "hate Thatch" are like old COBOL programmers, shaking your fists at how hard it was to keep your punch cards dry etc

Take a leaf out of Milan's book: .NETory is the future - join the bandwagon of spondoolies...fill yer boots. Look at Prescott - your typical, working class lad. Given an eyefull of what it's all about, he was straight in there. Look at how he simply gorged on all those temptations to show exactly how duplicitous people can be.

In any case, straight-talking Tone, the Mad Messiah, has spoke unto us:

"If you fuck up, it's OK, you just need to invoke the old "lessons learned" and everything will be alright again"