Americans already planning to invade Europe

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To whom are you referring?

The top US military commander, Gen Martin Dempsey.

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Doodab, do you still disbelieve me that Germany are printing Marks?

Oh goody,

[doodab]

Doodab, do you still disbelieve me that Germany are printing Marks?

Yes. It's a bulltulip internet rumour that has been knocking around for a couple of months on the back of a speculative utterance a former adviser to the bush administration made in an interview to a Swedish newspaper. I've seen no actual evidence, and one would expect the Germans to provide a fair bit of warning (12-18 months or more, given their love of planning things in detail) because vending machines, cashpoints and computer systems would need to be adapted and they would find it unacceptable if anything were to actually stop working efficiently.

[scooterscot]

Remember that this is about the common currency. Not about trade, defence, health, and all the other things that we still co-operate fully with the EU about.

Funny, I thought it was about unregulated banking damaging stability and causing social unrest. Governments spent more than they had, how is that a currency problem?

[darmstadt]

Doodab, do you still disbelieve me that Germany are printing Marks?

What planet are you on? I was sitting next to a senior executive from the ECB last night and when presented with this scenario just looked at me if I really was a stupid Englishman...

[scooterscot]

What planet are you on? I was sitting next to a senior executive from the ECB last night and when presented with this scenario just looked at me if I really was a stupid Englishman...

Travelling between the UK and DE frequently it's alarming how different the two sides of the story are playing out.

DE: Live goes on nothing to see here.

UK: Euro in flames splashed across tabloids.


The media is wielding far too much influence, or should I say as always, power remains in the hands of the rich and it shows.

[Doggy Styles]

Funny, I thought it was about unregulated banking damaging stability and causing social unrest. Governments spent more than they had, how is that a currency problem?

The treaty is an attempt to remedy the eurozone crisis, which I suspect is a problem to do with currency.

[Doggy Styles]

Travelling between the UK and DE frequently it's alarming how different the two sides of the story are playing out.

DE: Live goes on nothing to see here.

UK: Euro in flames splashed across tabloids.

The media is wielding far too much influence, or should I say as always, power remains in the hands of the rich and it shows.

If "life goes on nothing to see here" in Europe why have European leaders been panicking from meeting to meeting for the past three months? Why have there been riots in the PIGS countries against the enforced austerity measures? Why are you suddenly having a go at rich people?

This is from Le Monde: "Let's be fair. The British have nothing to do with the euro crisis. They are not responsible for the inability of the eurozone leaders to resolve their sovereign debt problems. It makes sense that the British resist a move towards greater economic and budgetary integration. They don't believe in it. They do not believe in the idea of the European Union. Britain, which joined the then European Economic Community in 1973, is interested just in one thing: the single market. They [the British] are indifferent about the rest of the European project, when they are not hostile to it."

That is our position in a nutshell. Not a problem is it?

[doodab]

If "life goes on nothing to see here" in Europe why have European leaders been panicking from meeting to meeting for the past three months? Why have there been riots in the PIGS countries against the enforced austerity measures?

This is from Le Monde: "Let's be fair. The British have nothing to do with the euro crisis. They are not responsible for the inability of the eurozone leaders to resolve their sovereign debt problems. It makes sense that the British resist a move towards greater economic and budgetary integration. They don't believe in it. They do not believe in the idea of the European Union. Britain, which joined the then European Economic Community in 1973, is interested just in one thing: the single market. They [the British] are indifferent about the rest of the European project, when they are not hostile to it."

That is our position in a nutshell. Not a problem is it?

That pretty much sums it up i think, although it glosses over the broader spectrum of viewpoints that sum to that aggregate result. Interesting that it takes a french newspaper to put it so succinctly.

[gingerjedi]

Travelling between the UK and DE frequently it's alarming how different the two sides of the story are playing out.

DE: Live goes on nothing to see here.

UK: Euro in flames splashed across tabloids.


The media is wielding far too much influence, or should I say as always, power remains in the hands of the rich and it shows.

Part of the problem is the German people don't realise it's their precious savings that are at risk if it all goes tits up, the lack of media coverage may be their downfall.

Then there's the German obsession with preventing future leaks rather than concentrating on plugging the big gaping hole in the roof they have now.