Cutting out the agent

[DodgyAgent]

Maybe you should focus on decreasing that ratio instead of posting tulip on here.

[aussielong]

The market works in such a way that businesses like yours do not need to spend any money on sales and marketing -what other industry enjoys such a privilige.

Rubbish. I'm marketing myself on linkedin. Knowledge of this contract would have come my way possibly a week or two after the agent got hold of it - when I socialised with my friend who is on the project.

The quid pro quo is that agents when they do place contractors are rewarded to compensate for all the work they do that yields nothing.

Riiiiggggghhhht. That's creative accounting. So I am currently being paid a decent rate and that rewards me for unpaid time on the bench spent skilling up. Therefore my average rate is quite low and your percentage should be based on that average rate rather than the real rate?

Clearly this agent has added value because he has alerted you to an opportunity that by your own admission you did not know about. You seek to justify using the information he has trusted you with to opportunistically feather your own nest.

I agree the agent should be compensated for his actions. 20% is too greedy and encourages me to do this kind of thing.

If agents as you say "feed off" the clueless than what does that say about your fellow contractors? that they are clueless?

Some of them new to the game are clueless with regard to margins and agency tactics. You parasites feed off those.

[DodgyAgent]

Rubbish. I'm marketing myself on linkedin. Knowledge of this contract would have come my way possibly a week or two after the agent got hold of it - when I socialised with my friend who is on the project.



Riiiiggggghhhht. That's creative accounting. So I am currently being paid a decent rate and that rewards me for unpaid time on the bench spent skilling up. Therefore my average rate is quite low and your percentage should be based on that average rate rather than the real rate?



I agree the agent should be compensated for his actions. 20% is too greedy and encourages me to do this kind of thing.



Some of them new to the game are clueless with regard to margins and agency tactics. You parasites feed off those.

And who exactly are you to decide that 20% is too greedy? What are you basing this judgement on? Who exactly are you to accuse another business person of being greedy? as you are the proclaimed righteous individual who seems to be so divinely charged with making judgements about others "greed are for example Tesco more or less greedy because they make a 4000% mark up on cabbages?

as far as parasites are concerned what percentage of contractors are naive and new to the market? and how many agencies feed off this group of people?

What you do is entirely your own business, and I will even add that it is naive of the agent to approach you and hand over such information in what is clearly such a closed market. My point however still stands which is that you are an opportunist which makes you no better than the agents you criticise. The fact that you try to justify your own greed by judging agents as unworthy makes you look an even bigger hypocrite.

[aussielong]

And who exactly are you to decide that 20% is too greedy? What are you basing this judgement on? Who exactly are you to accuse another business person of being greedy? as you are the proclaimed righteous individual who seems to be so divinely charged with making judgements about others "greed are for example Tesco more or less greedy because they make a 4000% mark up on cabbages?

I am able to say 20% is too greedy because its my 20% that i've earned. I can't say Tesco's are too greedy for their markup because they are not directly impacting my income - I have a choice to not buy cabbages.

as far as parasites are concerned what percentage of contractors are naive and new to the market? and how many agencies feed off this group of people?

Do you want me to mathematically prove you are a parasite?

What you do is entirely your own business, and I will even add that it is naive of the agent to approach you and hand over such information in what is clearly such a closed market.

Correct.

My point however still stands which is that you are an opportunist which makes you no better than the agents you criticise.

Agent is taking a lot of money from me for doing hardly any work. I am taking my own money back from him. How is that equal? And how can you generalise from that to opportunism.

The fact that you try to justify your own greed by judging agents as unworthy makes you look an even bigger hypocrite.

You are conveniently ignoring the 20% margin to make your point.