Ken Clarke

[russell]

OMG you really are a ****wit, my point is no not all rape is rape, the law is an ass for branding it all together.





(PS Bubba is a kind, giving and very gentle lover, just like your mum)

So are some first degree murders less serious than others?

[MarillionFan]

Ok on a serious note, its Daily Mail readers like you which has turned this into a story, in the eyes of the law there is such a thing as consensual rape, ie a 15 year old girl and her 16 year old boyfriend, as she is under age it is statutory rape even if consensual. Compare that with the other end of the scale where as a sex attack violently rapes a random women, there for Ken is right to say some rape is more serious than others.

It's not Daily Mailers. It's the Sun and Mirror
In this case.

[MarillionFan]

So are some first degree murders less serious than others?

Murder, manslaughter, diminished responsibilty...

[SimonMac]

So are some first degree murders less serious than others?

No some murders are less serious than others, thats why there is 1st Degree Murder, 2nd Degree Murder etc

[SimonMac]

Murder, manslaughter, diminished responsibilty...

Or "The Russell Defense" as they are now called

[amcdonald]

OMG you really are a ****wit, my point is no not all rape is rape, the law is an ass for branding it all together.

(PS Bubba is a kind, giving and very gentle lover, just like your mum)

Just like if you're drunk and need a wee, and don't make it home in time and have to find somewhere, plod catches you and you're on the sex offenders register

Just because it's the law doesn't make it morally right

[russell]

No some murders are less serious than others, thats why there is 1st Degree Murder, 2nd Degree Murder etc

Hence my use of first degree

[SimonMac]

Hence my use of first degree

Sorry mate but I'm calling a fail on your part, you can't have more than one level of 1st degree murder, admit your mistake and carry on rather than trying to back track

[doodab]

Hence my use of first degree

You are minestrone (is he the one with three degrees?) and I claim my £5.

[russell]

Sorry mate but I'm calling a fail on your part, you can't have more than one level of 1st degree murder, admit your mistake and carry on rather than trying to back track

I agree the 17 sleeping with a 15 year old is not equavient to forcing someone to have sex against their will which is what I regard as rape. That aside if there is violence then other charges can be applied, but the actual rape charge is well defined.