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    #11
    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    Educated better off people have less need of religion.
    So what is the excuse for the bible-belt USA Baptists?
    My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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      #12
      Originally posted by milanbenes View Post
      they've shutdown the internet over there and also the mobile phone networks !


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      They couldn't do it here, one day without Facebook and every student would be rioting on the streets
      Doing the needful since 1827

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        #13
        Originally posted by amcdonald View Post
        They couldn't do it here, one day without Facebook and every student would be rioting on the streets
        Admittedly they would all be on different streets

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          #14
          Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
          So what is the excuse for the bible-belt USA Baptists?
          Considering the education level of some parts of the USA the argument is still valid, just a slightly different type of god bothering.

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            #15
            Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post
            Admittedly they would all be on different streets
            My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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              #16
              Coming soon to a street near you.

              Kick out Clegg & Cameron - Tunisia shows the way

              No wonder Cameron and his fag have buggered off to Switzerland for the weekend.
              Guy Fawkes - "The last man to enter Parliament with honourable intentions."

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                #17
                Originally posted by amcdonald View Post
                They couldn't do it here, one day without Facebook and every student would be rioting on the streets
                Would that make any difference?
                Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Alf W View Post
                  Coming soon to a street near you.

                  Kick out Clegg & Cameron - Tunisia shows the way
                  Like I said...

                  Will anyone take any notice?
                  Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post
                    Admittedly they would all be on different streets
                    funny you should say that

                    but it seems they were using facebook to organise themselves

                    Milan.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by wobbegong View Post
                      I find all this more than a little worrying. Is there not the likelyhood that when the secular governments are toppled, the way is paved for the Islamic extremists to make their move for power?
                      Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post
                      Do you mean the CIA?
                      I think both sides are watching carefully:

                      Obama ratchets up pressure on Egypt's Mubarak

                      Even with its more assertive tone, the Obama administration seemed to be juggling its desire for regional stability, its support for democratic change and its determination to avoid the rise of an anti-U.S. Islamist government in Cairo potentially aligned with Iran.
                      Since taking office two years ago, Obama and his administration have struggled at times to balance support for moderate, authoritarian Arab states considered crucial to U.S. interests with a push for expanded political freedoms.

                      Egypt is an example of that dilemma. The United States sees it as a linchpin for future Israeli-Palestinian peacemaking and a bulwark against Iran's regional clout.
                      Most U.S.-based analysts believe Mubarak is likely to weather the storm, if for no other reason than his government and military seem prepared to use whatever force is needed.

                      But if Mubarak does lose his 30-year grip on power, the greatest U.S. fear would be the rise of a government with strong Islamist ties and the risk of Egypt aligning itself with Iran, a bitter foe of the United States and its ally Israel.

                      This is widely seen as something the powerful Egyptian military would never permit. Washington has poured billions of dollars of military and other aid into Egypt since it became the first of only two Arab states to make peace with Israel.
                      [Jog On comment: With such a reliance on the tourism industry I don't think they would want a hard line Islamic government scaring away visitors to their ancient hostorical monuments. Tourism is their largest industry]

                      This might turn out to be bigger than just Egypt if it becomes used as a stage for the West/US/democracy vs Islam in a 'hearts and minds' tug of war...

                      I still want to go on a Nile cruise this year
                      "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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