Smoking ban?

[expat]

Again, for workstaff in bars and so on, they choose where to work. No one is forcing them to take these jobs on.

I'm afraid I agree with you here.

It seems to me disingenuous for the government to insist that no-one may smoke in a bar because it's dangerous to bar staff (who are presumed to be unable to make their own choice). It's dangerous to drive but we make bus-drivers do it.

Why allow smoking in the home? It's a burglar's place of work and you're infringing his human rights.

[eternalnomad]

I am a non-smoker (and have never smoked in my life)

My father died from smoking related lung cancer.

IMHO, with all the available evidence people must be pretty stupid to smoke.

However, this is all about personal freedom, responsibility and choice.

My favourite chinese restaurant refuses to offer a non-smoking area. I have the choice to go and eat elsewhere, nobody makes me eat there but every so often the attraction of their food outways the risk of passive smoke.

My local pub (which is relatively smoke free) employs a couple of weekend bar staff who are non-smokers. Nobody makes them work there and there are plenty of other places where they could get bar work in a non-smoking environment.

Once again this is a case of the New Liebour nanny state going into overdrive.

Naturally, smoking is the House of Commons bar is going to be allowed.

[ASB]

Again, for workstaff in bars and so on, they choose where to work. No one is forcing them to take these jobs on.

Not so really. If its the only work available to them (and in a lot of cases it is) then benefits would be stopped if they didn't take it. Also there would be a large chorus of "why don't they get off their fat arses. They could at least get a job in a pub"

[threaded]

I understand that at least one company requires staff that enter the data centre to have a chip inserted, the same type as used for pets.

They don't have to have the chip inserted if they don't want to.

Yet no one without a chip is allowed in the data centre.

[expat]

Naturally, smoking is the House of Commons bar is going to be allowed.

Please tell me you're kidding.

[expat]

Added more sources as an edit above.

However I didnt do it "Just like that". Smokers actually die on average 7.5 years earlier and those figures include the loss of income to the treasury caused by that, cost in additional benefits to those who cant support themselves due to smoking related illness etc etc. As I said above.
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Loss of income to the treasury? Loss of pension more likely, I would have thought.

[Mailman]

Finally...the freaking government gets something right!

Damn right there should be no smoking in bars! Now you can wear your close two nights in a row and not have to worry about being a stinky bastard!

Mailman

[privateeye]

I don't understand the amount of wasted MP's time on banning smoking - the laws already existed to ban smoking, any landlord had the power to implement it. Everyone had the choice of whether to enter a smoking/non-smoking pub. It will not as people claim make people give up smoking, they will just go somewhere else or stay at home. Smoke free employers don't see a reduction in smokers at the workplace just a lot of people hanging outside the building.

The Governments over the years have used smokers to make profit, the Gov's own figures state something like 1.5 billion is required to treat smoking related illness but some 8.5 billion is raised in tax. If they were serious that this was a health issue they would have used that extra money more wisely to encourage stopping smoking. An example would have been offset the profit made on smoking to subsidise the quit smoking products such as patches. Unbelievably these items are subjected to VAT etc etc so the Gov are not that seriously encouraging people to quit when the taxation of these quit smoking products makes them more expensive that the real thing.

No doubt next budget the Gov will say due to the reduction in tax made on smoking we will raise taxes by 7 billion.

[bogeyman]

Now you can wear your close two nights in a row and not have to worry about being a stinky bastard!
Mailman

Close?

Clearly, you don't worry about being an illiterate bastard.

[The Master]

Wearing your clothes two nights in a row makes you a pretty stinky bastard anyway. Still, you humans are not renowned for your personal hygiene.