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Outrage over £30m torture hush money
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Originally posted by TimberWolf View PostBritish, national and international laws, UN, Geneva convention, moral, ethical...
Torture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There appears to be evidence that we knew people we sent out there were going to be tortured.
Also, at the time Guantanamo was opened, waterboarding was not proscribed as torture by the US administration. Infact, the UN only started getting twitchy about it in 2008. So again, what law did the UK break?
I very much doubt there was anything written down and officially recorded. The UK very publicly operates a don't ask policy for that very reason."I hope Celtic realise that, if their team is good enough, they will win. If they're not good enough, they'll not win - and they can't look at anybody else, whether it is referees or any other influence." - Walter Smith
On them! On them! They fail!Comment
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Originally posted by Incognito View PostReally, evidence or hearsay. The distinction is very important. Of course when Mad Mullah's been captured he's going to scream bloody murder, now all of a sudden he's a UK citizen.
If Govt thought it could win case in court it would not pay £30 mln for sure - that's enough money to keep even expensive lawyers going for some time.Comment
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Originally posted by Incognito View PostReally, evidence or hearsay. The distinction is very important. Of course when Mad Mullah's been captured he's going to scream bloody murder, now all of a sudden he's a UK citizen.
Also, at the time Guantanamo was opened, waterboarding was not proscribed as torture by the US administration. Infact, the UN only started getting twitchy about it in 2008. So again, what law did the UK break?
I very much doubt there was anything written down and officially recorded. The UK very publicly operates a don't ask policy for that very reason.Comment
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Originally posted by Incognito View PostAlso, at the time Guantanamo was opened, waterboarding was not proscribed as torture by the US administrationAnd on the eighth day God said, "Okay, Murphy, you're in charge!"Comment
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostThey were tortured, there is no doubts about that.
Source; Ministry of Truth (Minitrue), Orwell (G), London, 1984And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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Originally posted by AtW View PostHe is a UK citizen - that's fact.
If Govt thought it could win case in court it would not pay £30 mln for sure - that's enough money to keep even expensive lawyers going for some time.
The price agreed for this "accommodation" is £30m.
**** all to do with who did what to whom with what and when or why.
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostWhat law did these people break?
They were tortured for years without a crime being placed against them. A simpleton like you who professes to doing a law degree (cos you failed to make the grade first time round) should understand the idea of guilty until proven. Or do you not understand that you cretin?
"Inevitable consequence of the British and US governments choosing to break the law." My question was simply asking him to state exactly what law had been broken. Have you even seen me mention the morality side of the issue at all.
Originally posted by AtW View PostHe is a UK citizen - that's fact.
If Govt thought it could win case in court it would not pay £30 mln for sure - that's enough money to keep even expensive lawyers going for some time."I hope Celtic realise that, if their team is good enough, they will win. If they're not good enough, they'll not win - and they can't look at anybody else, whether it is referees or any other influence." - Walter Smith
On them! On them! They fail!Comment
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Originally posted by Incognito View PostReally, evidence or hearsay. The distinction is very important. Of course when Mad Mullah's been captured he's going to scream bloody murder, now all of a sudden he's a UK citizen.
Also, at the time Guantanamo was opened, waterboarding was not proscribed as torture by the US administration. Infact, the UN only started getting twitchy about it in 2008. So again, what law did the UK break?
I very much doubt there was anything written down and officially recorded. The UK very publicly operates a don't ask policy for that very reason.
Bush made some kind of amendment to his laws for his own purposes for waterboarding, but that's the US's problem to deal with and not what you asked. I believe torture has been illegal in the UK for centuries.Comment
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Depending on what kind of torture was inflicted, £2m doesn't seem bad. Then again, if it involved sharing a cell with a big hairy bugger HMG can keep their cash and I'll hang on to my liberty thanks.Comment
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