Second Contract In Finance - My Thoughts

[Zippy]

Comedy post of the day

[ItsQuickerAntiClockwise]

Is it just me or was there a slight undercurrent of racialism in minestrones post.

(not complaining mind, just observing )

[alreadypacked]

Is it just me or was there a slight undercurrent of racialism in minestrones post.

(not complaining mind, just sturing )

HTH

[Spacecadet]

Actually, you could fire off the batch jobs from any browser in the world.

"Right can every one come and look at this URL here, i'm going to paste it into the browser and get Hong Kong running again, is this date right? region?"

And of course when the business demanded to do the URL run the person would not know that the reply from a batch running 50 million trades might take longer than the BBC entertainment page.

"It no work, I press F5" 100 million trades.
"It no work, I press F5" 150 million trades.
"It no work, I press F5" 200 million trades.

and so on until...

"It no work, I press F5" 900 million trades.

then...

bang, server goes tits up

2 minutes later

"wing wing, wing wing"

"why this no working, my boss very important, you get sack"

Do one.

Seriously, this is a problem I had about 10 years ago
So I made sure that any long jobs on the system would redirect the user to a holding screen whilst the job ran. The "please wait" screen would automatically take them to the results screen when the process was finished.

[Scrag Meister]

I've never worked for a bank, but from what I've heard half of them seem to be run on Excel spreadsheets.

Yep. Thank goodness.

[Doggy Styles]

Is it just me or was there a slight undercurrent of racialism in minestrones post.

(not complaining mind, just observing )

No need to worry, it's just you.

[doodab]

Is it just me or was there a slight undercurrent of racialism in minestrones post.

(not complaining mind, just observing )

You haven't been banned yet. Well done!

[Mich the Tester]

At one major international bank where I've worked they have approximately 2500 applications running on their servers according to their own 'estimates'. Truth is they don't know. They estimate that a half of those apps are empty of any data but can't be taken down because they act as interfaces for other apps, and because they've fired all the people who knew what the apps do and outsourced admin to Mr B Shawadiwadi, who knows even less about them.

Most of those apps are not present in test or acceptance environments, meaning that tests have to be carried out with lots of stubs or manual workarounds to simulate an app whose behaviour is unknown to anyone, and no test manager can really give a meaningful prediction as to behaviour in production. Testing´s often a bit of a waste of time anyway as whatever you´re testing will go into production however slipshod it is. Quite how they find auditors who are mad enough to sign their accounts defeats me.

Someday some large sums of money are going to missing in one or more of these apps and nobody will have the slightest clue where to look for them.

Still, good for contractors´ pockets.

[minestrone]

Seriously, this is a problem I had about 10 years ago
So I made sure that any long jobs on the system would redirect the user to a holding screen whilst the job ran. The "please wait" screen would automatically take them to the results screen when the process was finished.

I asked to put in a screen that would say something like "the batch is running on the server, please don't refresh this page" but the business could not sign off on the text. It really was that bad.

That was the application I wanted to put in 'special screens' targeted to the individual that would display big font text for a second in between normal naviagtion. Have a table to configure user, time and text.

"Oi, Charlie, ya a useless bawbag"

Would have liked to have seen the JIRA for that

"JIRA 3423: User claims application called him a 'useless bawbag'"

[HairyArsedBloke]

At one major international bank where I've worked they have approximately 2500 applications running on their servers according to their own 'estimates'. Truth is they don't know. They estimate that a half of those apps are empty of any data but can't be taken down because they act as interfaces for other apps, and because they've fired all the people who knew what the apps do and outsourced admin to Mr B Shawadiwadi, who knows even less about them.

Most of those apps are not present in test or acceptance environments, meaning that tests have to be carried out with lots of stubs or manual workarounds to simulate an app whose behaviour is unknown to anyone, and no test manager can really give a meaningful prediction as to behaviour in production. Testing´s often a bit of a waste of time anyway as whatever you´re testing will go into production however slipshod it is. Quite how they find auditors who are mad enough to sign their accounts defeats me.

Someday some large sums of money are going to missing in one or more of these apps and nobody will have the slightest clue where to look for them.

Still, good for contractors´ pockets.

One of my last contracts back in the last century, I had to go into the server room with one of the PMs and an Ops guy to find out what was wrong with the server running our app. We misread the location and opened up a cabinet to find a rack of old IBM ATs. Half of 'em had died. There was a modem that looked like it go some infrequent traffic. There was no indication of what they were for. Ops guy say, "Frack knows what they are. Anyway, no my problem" and locks the cabinet up again.

There was no interest in finding out what they were for. They could still be there.