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UK May Share Aircraft Carriers With France

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    #11
    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Makes sense, now place order for French nukes as well instead of Trident...
    The French haven't got anything that will compete with Trident.

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      #12
      Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
      The French haven't got anything that will compete with Trident.
      They've got their own missiles as they've managed to maintain their nuclear R&D, so that now they are building nuclear reactors in the UK rather than the other way around.

      Since the French have already paid bulk of the cost of developing their own deterrent it means that any extra sales they can get will be most welcome there, so a good deal is more than possible.

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        #13
        Originally posted by AtW View Post
        They've got their own missiles as they've managed to maintain their nuclear R&D, so that now they are building nuclear reactors in the UK rather than the other way around.

        Since the French have already paid bulk of the cost of developing their own deterrent it means that any extra sales they can get will be most welcome there, so a good deal is more than possible.
        The French do not have anything that will compete with Trident.

        Repeated for the hard of thinking.

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          #14
          Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
          The French haven't got anything that will compete with Trident.
          When you consider that you can fit an atomic warhead on a modified Tomahawk or I guess an Exocet missile - it renders the entire concept of Trident a tad meaningless - unless you happen to be Lockheed Martin of course .

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            #15
            Originally posted by AlfredJPruffock View Post
            When you consider that you can fit an atomic warhead on a modified Tomahawk or I guess an Exocet missile - it renders the entire concept of Trident a tad meaningless - unless you happen to be Lockheed Martin of course .
            Wrong missiles, wrong job.

            I repeat, again.

            The French do not have anything that will compete with Trident.

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              #16
              Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
              The French do not have anything that will compete with Trident.

              Repeated for the hard of thinking.
              French missiles:
              Operational, range 6,000 km
              Warhead : 6 x 100 Kt TN 75
              Source: M45 (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

              Trident D5:
              Warhead (in USA usage only): nuclear MIRV. Up to eight W88 (475 kt) warheads (Mark 5) or eight W76 (100 kt) warheads (Mark 4). The Trident II can carry 12 MIRV warheads but START I reduces this to 8 and SORT reduces this yet further to 4 or 5.
              Range: 11,300 kilometres (7,000 mi)
              Source: UGM-133 Trident II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

              So Trident can go further, that's because USA needed it to hit Soviet targets, but UK is much closer, why would you need full range? The French seem to be quiet happy with their missiles and they put a lot of effort in it, why do you have to use Trident?

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                #17
                Originally posted by AtW View Post
                French missiles:
                Operational, range 6,000 km
                Warhead : 6 x 100 Kt TN 75
                Source: M45 (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                Trident D5:
                Warhead (in USA usage only): nuclear MIRV. Up to eight W88 (475 kt) warheads (Mark 5) or eight W76 (100 kt) warheads (Mark 4). The Trident II can carry 12 MIRV warheads but START I reduces this to 8 and SORT reduces this yet further to 4 or 5.
                Range: 11,300 kilometres (7,000 mi)
                Source: UGM-133 Trident II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                So Trident can go further, that's because USA needed it to hit Soviet targets, but UK is much closer, why would you need full range? The French seem to be quiet happy with their missiles and they put a lot of effort in it, why do you have to use Trident?
                The French have nothing that will compete with Trident.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SupremeSpod View Post
                  The French have nothing that will compete with Trident.
                  Can you please substantiate your view by saying specifically what is wrong with French's missiles?

                  France is geographically near Britain and they do have nuclear deterrent, if it works for them then there is no reason why it should not work for UK.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by AtW View Post
                    Can you please substantiate your view by saying specifically what is wrong with French's missiles?

                    France is geographically near Britain and they do have nuclear deterrent, if it works for them then there is no reason why it should not work for UK.
                    Obviously range is very important. With a range of 7k miles, the Frogs could run away for ages and STILL be in range of the enemy


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                      #20
                      Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
                      Obviously range is very important.
                      Range in this case would be only important if British subs planned to hit American targets, which is something rather unlikely to happen.

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