Oh dear: Iran again!!

[ALM]

Alf,

I think your obsession with Oil reveals a lack of intellect.

A rather absurd comment IMO. There seems to have been a massive hoo-haa with regards to Iran over the past few months. If you have a more plausible explanation as to why the US seems so desperate to pursue Iran why not put it forward instead launching personal attacks on those who rightfully identify oil as the primary motive?

IMO the issue has as little to do with Iran's nuclear threat as the Iraq war had to do with it's alleged WMD. If nuclear proliferation was an issue how and why have India and Pakistan been allowed to amass nuclear arsenals? In the case of India, the yanks are actually partnering them on their nuclear plans! Why no punishment for North Korea either? Why no punishment for Israel? It seems to me that oil is clearly the primary motive. Your failure to recognise this is either evidence of naivity or dishonesty on your part.

[AlfredJPruffock]

Alf,

I think your obsession with Oil reveals a lack of intellect. There are many intricate dynamics behind the politics of the Middle East, of which oil is certainly a major component. However it is not as simple as your mind seems to think. Iran is not Iraq for a start so your neat little set of rules do not apply. Iran does not have an all powerful despot with an iron grip over its people. Instead it has a large population of young and well educated people who have ambitions that go beyond being part of backward secular state. The US know this, so does China and so does the rest of the world. Going to war with Iran is not an option as it would unite the people of Iran (and everyone else for that matter).

If you will pardon the pun, you have a very crude right or wrong view towards the middle east, that seems to do nothing more than satisfy your own resentment of the Americans.

Certainly I do agree with you that it would be folly to attack Iran, a county who has genuine elections for leadership, I find Chicos gungho attitude very disturbing, he seems to be hell bent on War with Iran no matter the consequences.

This affair could ignite the entire Middle East with massive loss of life and catastrophic results for us all.

However, that said, I do believe the preservation of the US Dollar as the de facto petro currency will be maintained by all means necessary, and this is not so much a reflection on the US as a whole ,but rather by special inerest groups such as the International Fiananciers and the Millitary Industrial complex who in turn have great lobbying powers with the US administration.

Is it mere coincidence that suddenly the pressure racks up againts Iran that this coincides witht next months opening of the Iranian Oil Bourse ?

As for your notion that somehow I resent Americans, I can only add that I have visited the US twice including a short period spent working near Philidelphia, and to this day have many American friends.

It is true that I do resent the majority of the current US administration policies, however I was very impressed by the Democrats under Clinton.

So to say that because I am critical of the Bush administration, (and so is the majority of the US population for that matter) is akin to saying if you resent Tony Blair you somehow resent Great Britain.

Having cleared that issue, its good to learn that we both oppose millitary intervention in Iran for the reasons you have stated,I think its Chicos turn now to justify his point of view.

[sasguru]

Having cleared that issue, its good to learn that we both oppose millitary intervention in Iran for the reasons you have stated,I think its Chicos turn now to justify his point of view.

Chico is a blathering twat, and his opinion is of no consequence.

[AlfredJPruffock]

Chico is a blathering twat, and his opinion is of no consequence.

You know I think you have a point there, I must remember not to respond to any of his rantings in the future.

[sasguru]

You know I think you have a point there, I must remember not to respond to any of his rantings in the future.

It's good entertainment value, though ...

[AlfredJPruffock]

It's good entertainment value, though ...

True, it does brighten up an otherwise dull day in the office.

Excuse me , got a World to run here.

[BobTheCrate]

I have few objections to the suspension of aid to Iran and imposition of sanctions, unless they abide by the rules.

Shake it up a little and see what (if anything) changes.

It might work and is probably better than doing nothing.

[DodgyAgent]

Is it mere coincidence that suddenly the pressure racks up againts Iran that this coincides witht next months opening of the Iranian Oil Bourse ?

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Alf,

There is no coincidence. Is it not the Iranians who have just themselves raised this business with regards to the recent announcements that they have made. It is also the French who are pushing for action to be taken against Iran as much as the USA.

[DodgyAgent]

A rather absurd comment IMO. There seems to have been a massive hoo-haa with regards to Iran over the past few months. If you have a more plausible explanation as to why the US seems so desperate to pursue Iran why not put it forward instead launching personal attacks on those who rightfully identify oil as the primary motive?

IMO the issue has as little to do with Iran's nuclear threat as the Iraq war had to do with it's alleged WMD. If nuclear proliferation was an issue how and why have India and Pakistan been allowed to amass nuclear arsenals? In the case of India, the yanks are actually partnering them on their nuclear plans! Why no punishment for North Korea either? Why no punishment for Israel? It seems to me that oil is clearly the primary motive. Your failure to recognise this is either evidence of naivity or dishonesty on your part.

What have politics got to do with punishment??? Oil is not the primary motive, self interest is the primary motive.

[Mailman]

Certainly I do agree with you that it would be folly to attack Iran, a county who has genuine elections for leadership, I find Chicos gungho attitude very disturbing, he seems to be hell bent on War with Iran no matter the consequences.

BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!

You might want to tell the 2000 or so "secular" members of parliament who were banned from standing for the recent elections.

Yeah...genuine elections alright...BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

Fark I love it how you goons gloss over real facts yet get stuck on e-myths so easily

Mailman