World Cup 2010: HMV withdraws 'racist' anti-England posters from Scottish stores

[Doggy Styles]

Hating the English is not racist.

[doodab]

Hating the English is not racist.

In Scotland, beating an English person for being English is classified as a racist attack. Those are the laws of the land, which to me this suggests that the Scots consider themselves a seperate race, although it's a somewhat circular argument.

[minestrone]

In Scotland, beating an English person for being English is classified as a racist attack. Those are the laws of the land, which to me this suggests that the Scots consider themselves a seperate race, although it's a somewhat circular argument.

Are you an expert on Scots law now? We do have a different legal system here in case you were unaware.

I issue a challenge to you to find one isolated racial attack on an English person in the last 2 weeks and if you cannot then we will just leave this as a pathetic attempt by HMV to market their name and a predictable troll attempt by troll. That is all it really is.

[doodab]

Are you an expert on Scots law now? We do have a different legal system here in case you were unaware.

I wouldn't claim to be an expert but it seem logical that if the official Grampian police crime figures say there were X racist attacks and Y of them were on English people that they classify attacks on English people as racist attacks. Presumably they do this because the crime they have recorded is a racist attack and not because they feel like it. Or perhaps you have a different system of logic up there as well?

I issue a challenge to you to find one isolated racial attack on an English person in the last 2 weeks and if you cannot then we will just leave this as a pathetic attempt by HMV to market their name and a predictable troll attempt by troll. That is all it really is.

Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, and as you are no doubt aware the figures which prompted the original article are for 08-09, but I have to admire your sneakiness in roping in some arbitrary constraints to help your cause.

[minestrone]

Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, and as you are no doubt aware the figures which prompted the original article are for 08-09, but I have to admire your sneakiness in roping in some arbitrary constraints to help your cause.

Right, so if I say there was little green men outside my house last night you would therefore say is must be true because you cannot believe it?

I ask again and now it is put up or shut up time

I issue a challenge to you to find one isolated racial attack on an English person in the last 2 weeks and if you cannot then we will just leave this as a pathetic attempt by HMV to market their name and a predictable troll attempt by troll. That is all it really is.

You are losing this argument because you have no foundation to base your opinion on.

[doodab]

Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, and as you are no doubt aware the figures which prompted the original article are for 08-09, but I have to admire your sneakiness in roping in some arbitrary constraints to help your cause.

Right, so if I say there was little green men outside my house last night you would therefore say is must be true because I cannot believe it?

Clearly I would have to accept it *could* be true as I have no concrete evidence to the contrary, but personally I would attach a very low probability to it being true because you are clearly a bit simple minded.

I ask again and now it is put up or shut up time

You are losing this argument because you have no foundation to base your opinion on.

What, my opinion that racism against the English is a problem in Scotland? Not my own opinion I must admit, I simply based it on listening to what some Scottish people had to say, among them an MSP and the spokesman for Grampian police, and they seemed to base their opinion on official police figures.

However, should the official police figures prove that racist attacks on an English persons in Scotland have ceased, I shall happily recant it.

[minestrone]

Clearly I would have to accept it *could* be true as I have no concrete evidence it isn't, but personally I would attach a very low probability to it being true because you are clearly a bit simple minded.



What, my opinion that racism against the English isn't a problem in Scotland? Not my own opinion I must admit, I simply based it on listening to what some Scottish people had to say, among them an MSP and the spokesman for Grampian police, and they seemed to base their opinion on official police figures.

However, should the official police figures prove that racist attacks on an English persons in Scotland have ceased, I shall happily recant it.

Very good, you are willing to strongly back up an opinion but not forward that as your own opinion. How meek is that.

[minestrone]

So again for the stupid fudnut...

I issue a challenge to you to find one isolated racial attack on an English person in the last 2 weeks and if you cannot then we will just leave this as a pathetic attempt by HMV to market their name and a predictable troll attempt by troll. That is all it really is.

[doodab]

my opinion that racism against the English isn't a problem in Scotland?

Very good, you are willing to strongly back up an opinion but not forward that as your own opinion. How meek is that.

Before I bothered to look into it I thought these shirts were a bit of harmless fun, and I still do, but having seen the figures I now believe that racist attacks against the English are a genuine problem in Scotland, albeit not the biggest issue on the agenda.

I'm happy to state it as my opinion, and I have done, but to suggest I reached it solely by own work would fail to give credit to the people who persuaded me of it.

[minestrone]

So again for the stupid fudnut...

I issue a challenge to you to find one isolated racial attack on an English person in the last 2 weeks and if you cannot then we will just leave this as a pathetic attempt by HMV to market their name and a predictable troll attempt by troll. That is all it really is.