Tarquin is right - Labour will win the election, barely

[sasguru]

Logic isn't your strongpoint, is it? The only result that would prove your theory would be some proof that a huge proportion of the public sector voted Labour. If labour win, that only proves that (given our crap electoral system) significant numbers voted for them, nothing else - the rest of it is based on pub logic and prejudice.

Ooh 'ark at him. A Peoplesoft setup clerk accusing me of a lack of logic

My basic premise is that if people vote by self-interest, Labour has got quite a large consitituency. I already said I didnt have any evidence and that that was speculation.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Ooh 'ark at him. A Peoplesoft setup clerk accusing me of a lack of logic

My basic premise is that if people vote by self-interest, Labour has got quite a large consitituency. I already said I didnt have any evidence and that that was speculation.

So we agree your view is based on pub "wisdom" and prejudice, excellent.

[Bagpuss]

It matters not one jot who gets in, the same civil servants will run the country. As for voting preference being determined by who pays you, it's a rather weak argument, as the government pays those 'workers' whoever they should be. As a side point... the largest rise in the welfare state was under Mrs T, did that create a generation of feckless Conservative voters?

[Churchill]

It matters not one jot who gets in, the same civil servants will run the country. As for voting preference being determined by who pays you, it's a rather weak argument, as the government pays those 'workers' whoever they should be. As a side point... the largest rise in the welfare state was under Mrs T, did that create a generation of flipless Conservative voters?

Any tax-breaks for new fathers, eh Bagpuss?

[Bagpuss]

Any tax-breaks for new fathers, eh Bagpuss?

Do you have something to tell us?

[Churchill]

Do you have something to tell us?

Nope but I believe you do...

[Gibbon]

Actually anyone listening to J Vine today will realise that labour do have an advantage.

Most of their seats are inner city and the industrial waste lands which have steadily been depopulating. Therefore they could win more seats by having less of the population voting for them than Tory. Also there are now aprox 80 non Lab/Tory MPs in parliament making it harder to get a majority. Apparently a 10% lead in the polls will only equate to about 20-30 seats majority.

[Bagpuss]

Actually anyone listening to J Vine today will realise that labour do have an advantage.

Most of their seats are inner city and the industrial waste lands which have steadily been depopulating. Therefore they could win more seats by having less of the population voting for them than Tory. Also there are now aprox 80 non Lab/Tory MPs in parliament making it harder to get a majority. Apparently a 10% lead in the polls will only equate to about 20-30 seats majority.

But then thay can gerrymander the boundaries once they get in

[Green Mango]

But then thay can gerrymander the boundaries once they get in

Its known as correcting the boundaries so that % vote gives a fair mp representation.

[Bagpuss]

Its known as correcting the boundaries so that % vote gives a fair mp representation.

It's known as altering the boundaries to suit party politics. They all do it, well those that get into power any rate.