Take an extra second to reflect on 2005

[AlfredJPruffock]

A rare event I know but here I do agree with Chicos sentiment that Man is by nature sinful and despite Laws, he is disobedient even when he know he should not sin, even when he destroys himself, he sins nevertheless.

Hence the misery in the World.

Personally I see the crucification of Christ , he who was without Sin as a karmic debt, a supreme martyr,for our collective sins.

In a sense salvation to the Christian then comes through the confirmation the Christ is our saviour and we shall receive the grace at the moment of our Death.

In the meantime we are to observe Christs teaching , the principle that we are to Love one another.

And can we do just that simple thing?

Lamb of God
You take away the Sins of the World
Grant us Peace

Alf the Sinner

[Chico]

Fungus on what basis do you question the historical accuracy of The Bible?

[Dundeegeorge]

Lol

Fungus on what basis do you question the historical accuracy of The Bible?

Excellent, was that from a Xmas cracker?

[snaw]

Fungus on what basis do you question the historical accuracy of The Bible?

From an historical basis I would guess ...

[darmstadt]

Who decides what is moral? One persons morality may be immoral for another person (note person and not man as in a world not ruled by misogynists we are all equal.) Who decides what is a sin? To some killing is a sin but to others its a neccessity. Shame really that an outdated and tottally irrelevant book now dictates to people their lives. I feel sorry for people who have to rely on something such as book to rule their way of living and thinking. To me that is a sign of weakness.

[Chico]

Who decides what is moral? One persons morality may be immoral for another person (note person and not man as in a world not ruled by misogynists we are all equal.) Who decides what is a sin? To some killing is a sin but to others its a neccessity. Shame really that an outdated and tottally irrelevant book now dictates to people their lives. I feel sorry for people who have to rely on something such as book to rule their way of living and thinking. To me that is a sign of weakness.

Oh the sweet irony - do you not spot the blatant contradiction in your statement. One persons morality is another person immorality so surely we need a moral marker which is superhuman right? Is that what the Bible is? And then you go and pour scorn on the so called irrelevant book and you feel sorry for such people who rely on this book. Hmm so which is it, where should humans get their morality from? From their leaders, from the UN? Or maybe every man for himself. Over to you.

[darmstadt]

Or maybe every man for himself.

That'll do me fine. Its worked for me. I don't judge others by my or anyone elses rules, I can only judge myself.

[Chico]

That'll do me fine. Its worked for me. I don't judge others by my or anyone elses rules, I can only judge myself.

As The Bible says

"For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice." James 3:16

[darmstadt]

I too can cut and paste from the bible for followers of another 'religion'

If we have shortcomings, we are not afraid to have them pointed out and criticized, because we serve the people. Anyone, no matter who, may point out our shortcomings. If he is right, we will correct them. If what he proposes will benefit the people, we will act upon it.

[sasguru]

As The Bible says

"For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice." James 3:16

The hypocrisy is stunning and unbelievable. Do you have a career? And do you want to progress up the ladder? I suggest you quit your disorder and evil practice and resign to concentrate on non-materialist and unpaid charity work.
Don't worry about your family - God will surely provide.
Or else you can join the army and do some "good" in Iraq?

Chico you are making a fool of yourself with your incoherent ramblings.