Have-a-go hero stabbed to death after chasing muggers who stole woman's bag

[RichardCranium]

Good man Richard, I CBA to read that whole document... now pass me that sandwich

Quite happy to help, because I believe if you got your way, that 1/3rd of knifings would turn into fatal shootings. And many of the ABH knifings and ABH kickings that are not in that .PDF will also turn into fatal shootings.

[AtW]

ok, I dont want to labour the point. But 250 people stabbed to death is a proportion of how many people stabbed ?
50 people shot to death is a proportion of how many people shot ?

You are looking at mortality rates per incident, that's beyond the point - MORE people were killed by knifes than guns PRE dunblane.

Banning guns did not solve the problem - gun crime has doubled.

Banning knifes did not solve the problem - they are easier to conceal than guys and quicker to use actually.

[AtW]

Quite happy to help, because I believe if you got your way, that 1/3rd of knifings would turn into fatal shootings.

The stats that I linked to are pre-1997, ie - before current ban on firearms.

Consequently statistics support my view that guns were not the biggest issue at all and it makes sense to go (at least) to pre-Dunblane legislation.

Now I advocate concealed firearms for specially licensed members of public (as well as police), that's not something that was the case in this country for some time (if ever), so that's certainly tought to argue point.

[EternalOptimist]

The stats that I linked to are pre-1997, ie - before current ban on firearms.

Consequently statistics support my view that guns were not the biggest issue at all and it makes sense to go (at least) to pre-Dunblane legislation.

Now I advocate concealed firearms for specially licensed members of public (as well as police), that's not something that was the case in this country for some time (if ever), so that's certainly tought to argue point.

Why not just buy a pen 1s extension AtW or get a Pitbull ?

this has nothing to do with safety or getting the bad guy , does it ?

[shaunbhoy]

Now I advocate concealed firearms for specially licensed members of public (as well as police), that's not something that was the case in this country for some time (if ever), so that's certainly tought to argue point.

I think that YOU are the one that needs to be "specially licensed" AtW. You are a dangerous mix of stupidity and stubbornness. Were you and Sas separated at birth?