Brown's Bottomless Budgets

[Fungus]

Fungus, if this is a bad year because of the oil and terrorism and weve still got growth, we are'nt doing bad. Take my word for it.

All due respect and all that.

Didn't seem to bother the US much did it? The oil and terrorism is just buck passing. And excuses. Did they blame the growth of the previous years on terrorism and oil price rises? Mmm. Brown had nothing to do with it then.

The problem is the spend/tax/regulate now, pay later philosophy of Brown. Thatcher deregulated the economy and tamed the unions. But look how long it took for the benefits to feed through into the economy. The complexity of Tinker Browns rules, taxes, means tested benefits, blah blah blah is all too much. Oh and the stealing from the pensions.

Well having just read your comments on mobile phones etc I freely concede that I am clearly in the presence of a higher intelligence and I merely labour under the delusion of not being as thick as pig tulipe.

Fungus

[DimPrawn]

Hammer's got a point.

I did some research.

XBOX 360's sold under tories: 0
XBOX 360's sold under New Lie: 57,589

Porsche Boxsters ownership under tories: 0
Porsche Boxsters ownership New Lie: 370,478

Absolutely convincing truth that we are far better off now than we were then.

[Churchill]

Hammer's got a point.

I did some research.

XBOX 360's sold under tories: 0
XBOX 360's sold under New Lie: 57,589

Porsche Boxsters ownership under tories: 0
Porsche Boxsters ownership New Lie: 370,478

Absolutely convincing truth that we are far better off now than we were then.

You've never had it so good...

[BoredBloke]

"I checked out some numbers. How fast did mobiles, computers, internet and satellite catch on under the tories in 18 years was it? Well they've grown much more in the last 8 years, mobiles by 5 times! Face it, thats growth."

That has got to be the worst argument ever submitted on this board! Has he noticed how the sales of the Spinning Jenny and the Seed Drill have fallen over recent times. Presumably that highlights the tough times faced in manufacturing and farming.

[wendigo100]

"I checked out some numbers. How fast did mobiles, computers, internet and satellite catch on under the tories in 18 years was it? Well they've grown much more in the last 8 years, mobiles by 5 times! Face it, thats growth."

That has got to be the worst argument ever submitted on this board!

Actually, I saw a similar argument put forward in The Times this week. They were comparing 1997 to today, but I think their point was about perception. People FEEL better off today because they have now got this stuff, which they didn't have before. All those things were available in 1997.

We can obviously argue about the dodgy logic behind perception, but it is perception that wins votes.

How far did the Tories (or anyone else) get in eight years arguing that the economy will cave in thanks to Labour's policies? Nowhere, because it never happened and people cannot see it.

Hammer might be a simple soul, but he is fairly typical of the electorate.

HTH

[AlfredJPruffock]

Actually, I saw a similar argument put forward in The Times this week. They were comparing 1997 to today, but I think their point was about perception. People FEEL better off today because they have now got this stuff, which they didn't have before. All those things were available in 1997.

We can obviously argue about the dodgy logic behind perception, but it is perception that wins votes.

How far did the Tories (or anyone else) get in eight years arguing that the economy will cave in thanks to Labour's policies? Nowhere, because it never happened and people cannot see it.

Hammer might be a simple soul, but he is fairly typical of the electorate.

HTH

Perhaps NLs next election ploy will be ...Vote NL and get a free Nokia z666


Crass I know, but effective, nevetheless .

[Churchill]

"I checked out some numbers. How fast did mobiles, computers, internet and satellite catch on under the tories in 18 years was it? Well they've grown much more in the last 8 years, mobiles by 5 times! Face it, thats growth."

That has got to be the worst argument ever submitted on this board! Has he noticed how the sales of the Spinning Jenny and the Seed Drill have fallen over recent times. Presumably that highlights the tough times faced in manufacturing and farming.

Sense of humour injection for Tony English please...