Battlestar Galactica

[HairyArsedBloke]

Now see what you lot have done.

I've gone and downloaded those two episodes overnight. Do I, a) get on with the work I need to finish, b) take advantage of the clear sky and get some exercise with a good long walk, or c) sit and watch those episodes.

Come to think of it, I didn't need to download them as I might have them already.

[HairyArsedBloke]

c)

And good it was too.

[OrangeHopper]

I thought the religious stuff was a main component of the overall story. Artificial life needing to believe in a God.

Another obvious theme was the inhumanity of humans.

Oh, and yes, I thought Starbuck has something special.

[minestrone]

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I think the question of if the cylons could have a god was a central theme in later series but the Baltizar creating his own religion was kind of pointless. That story line was never resolved, maybe that was the point, origional religions spawning derivative cults. It could have meant something but I do not think it really did.

[threaded]

Oh, and yes, I thought Starbuck has something special.

Chicks into guns. It's normal. You grow out of it. So I'm told.

[TimberWolf]

Does anyone remember Buck Rogers. More specifically Erin Gray when she was trying to escape by crawling through a tunnel of some kind with a skin tight uniform on? Me neither. Beedlee, beedlee.

[Board Game Geek]

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...but the Baltizar creating his own religion was kind of pointless. That story line was never resolved, maybe that was the point, origional religions spawning derivative cults. It could have meant something but I do not think it really did.

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IIRC, Gaius Baltar didn't set out to create his own religion.

He was ushered to safety by 3 females, who wanted him to try and heal their sick children.

Events conspired to propel him, unwillingly, to become sort sort of Messianic figurehead of a new Cult, and Baltar, being an opportunistic survival rat of the first degree took full advantage of his elevation.

What you were witnessing here was the creation of a cult, in which the figurehead was far from perfect and yet worshipped abjectly by his followers.

It did lead me to wonder about our own world's parallel example, of Jesus and his disciples, and I believe that was the intent of the writers, to demonstrate that all a cult needs in order to flourish is a charismatic and intelligent indivividual, and faith and hope from the followers will do the rest.

When I rewatch those moments, I see clearly that Baltar is reluctant to start with, but then grows in to the role with gusto. Whether he really believes or not is another matter. The fact is, his followers believe.

So, no, I don't think the Baltar "cult" was a waste of time. It had something to say to those willing to listen.

[minestrone]

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IIRC, Gaius Baltar didn't set out to create his own religion.

He was ushered to safety by 3 females, who wanted him to try and heal their sick children.

Events conspired to propel him, unwillingly, to become sort sort of Messianic figurehead of a new Cult, and Baltar, being an opportunistic survival rat of the first degree took full advantage of his elevation.

What you were witnessing here was the creation of a cult, in which the figurehead was far from perfect and yet worshipped abjectly by his followers.

It did lead me to wonder about our own world's parallel example, of Jesus and his disciples, and I believe that was the intent of the writers, to demonstrate that all a cult needs in order to flourish is a charismatic and intelligent indivividual, and faith and hope from the followers will do the rest.

When I rewatch those moments, I see clearly that Baltar is reluctant to start with, but then grows in to the role with gusto. Whether he really believes or not is another matter. The fact is, his followers believe.

So, no, I don't think the Baltar "cult" was a waste of time. It had something to say to those willing to listen.

SPOILERS

The Baltar ( I was calling him baltizar, head still in the 70s ) plot was meant to be a precurser to him being one of the last cylons, implying that they could find god and that religion was a creation of imagination. Of course you will know they were told to rewrite the ending but that was what was meant to happen. In the end religion never had a part of the final story, they kind of shoe horned the series into finding earth.

Baltar was never meant to be Jesus, if he was he would have been killed. Jesus also came from nothing and was hated by the institution, baltar was the institution.

They built up the Baltar stuff not knowing how the series would end and in the end it was never used. JUst filler in the end but yes, he was meant to be the last cylon.

[jmo21]

I found the religious-type nonsense well written, because it provoked thought about parallels with our own world.

It showed you how insidious religion and the sky fairies are, how it preys upon people, and ultimately rules their lives.

I didn't need BG to tell me that......

[jmo21]

Also, was it that much of a success really?