While my tattoo gently weeps...

[Board Game Geek]

RH posted : Saying tattoo=chav is plainly ignorant and bigoted.

As you yourself say, lots of people have tats, and afaik, it's mainly the working classes, with a growing number of the middle class who want to join the bandwagon for whatever reason (street cred, getting down and funky with the masses, because it looks nice (to them), or whatever.

It's just unfortunate that the tat has historically been associated with the more rougher elements of society which has made it a badge that does polarise opinions.

I suppose the irony is that considering the cost of some of the tats, it's a luxury out of the price range of most of the dole scroungers these days, so anyone sporting a sizable collection is probably well off and employed.

It's just that when the likes of Vikki Pollard and her ilk push past you in the street with their multiple kid buggies in one hand and their cans of White Lightning in the other, and they go to queue outside the local tat parlour, it does tend to leave an impression. You seen one and you think nothing of it. You see two and you ignore. You see nearly every other person in the high street and you begin to wonder.

[OwlHoot]

I have a tattoo and d'ya know what? I don't give a flying **** what you think.

As BBG said we all have our own motes, that's what makes us us.

My mote? I don't like arrogant, up-their-own @rse bigots who confuse opinion with fact.

HTH.

Crikey, "mote" is a bit of an antiquated word isn't it. Or has it been revived, like "pilcrow", which the OED confidently claims was last used in the 1400s?

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Matthew ch 7, v 3

[cailin maith]

Crikey, "mote" is a bit of an antiquated word isn't it. Or has it been revived, like "pilcrow", which the OED confidently claims was last used in the 1400s?

Reminds me of "Smite"... I will "Smite" him down...

Look, I "Smote" him

[Zippy]

I think to "know" is my favourite

[Bagpuss]

As you yourself say, lots of people have tats, and afaik, it's mainly the working classes

Hang on I thought it was chavs? Or do you consider the working class chavs?
I seem to remember you being devastated when you found out you were adopted from a working class background! Does that make you a chav at heart?

[chris79]

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[Board Game Geek]

Baggie posted : Hang on I thought it was chavs? Or do you consider the working class chavs?
I seem to remember you being devastated when you found out you were adopted from a working class background! Does that make you a chav at heart?

No no no, not all the WC are chavs, that'd be silly. Chav's are a template which can apply to any social demographic.

As for my adoption at birth, I was shocked to learn of my potential beginnings, but mighty glad I was adopted. Chav at heart ? I could easily have been, and that's a scary and shameful thought.

[Churchill]

I recall the convo very well.

And I left with the belief that some things need to be changed, and the UGL should be either forced to disband or made to accept all genders.

Having a few "token clubs for women" just in order to pay lip-service to gender equality is a rather sneaky way of saying "Actually, we don't allow women because rules are rules, however, these clubs help our PR by being seen to be accomodating."

That's not progressive. That's misdirection.

Progressive is when the UGL open its doors to all.

Until then, it's firmly stuck in the Dark Ages.

The mixed and women only lodges are not connected to UGLE in any way. Do you expect the WI to accept men? Or the Round Table to accept women?

You're advocating change in an organisation that you don't even belong to.

[Boudica]

I would really like a tattoo on my the inside of my wrist I'm put off by the fact that my ex used to say they were for sailors, slappers and yakuza... maybe he was saying I'm a slapper

[cailin maith]

I would really like a tattoo on my the inside of my wrist I'm put off by the fact that my ex used to say they were for sailors, slappers and yakuza... maybe he was saying I'm a slapper

He is your "ex" - WTF do you care what he thinks