the septics attacking the NHS

[dx4100]

Officially, the WHO rankings.

Unofficially people who have experienced those systems.

The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems was last produced in 2000, and the WHO no longer produces such a ranking table, because of the complexity of the task.

As far as unofficially goes, unless you get people who have experienced and have a full understanding of both systems I think its going to be hard to compare.

[sasguru]

The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems was last produced in 2000, and the WHO no longer produces such a ranking table, because of the complexity of the task.

Do you think they would have changed that much?

Problem is, we all know government run orgs are inefficient and such is the NHS. AFAIK, other western European countries have more efficient public-private partnerships.

And they have more choice, you can pick your GP.

[sunnysan]

Ppp

Do you think they would have changed that much?

Problem is, we all know government run orgs are inefficient and such is the NHS. AFAIK, other western European countries have more efficient public-private partnerships.

And they have more choice, you can pick your GP.

Hmmm, yes and no, the idea is great but in practice, in the UK it appears the PPP has resulted in increased cost with little or no improvement to the end user(See rail and London underground). IMHO Might work somewhere else but not here.

[dx4100]

Do you think they would have changed that much?

Well hang on... Lets just get something right first of all. You was talking about numbers in a report published in 2000 which was based on the situation in 1997. Since then, love or hate them, its undeniable that an absolute shed load of money has been thrown at the NHS by Labour. So considering these two things, yes I would imagine things have changed. Whats been happening in France, Germany and Italy in that time ?

So lets first of all stop talking about the WHO report which to be frank, was not a great report when it was released anyway. There are reasons why they wont be doing another report.

Problem is, we all know government run orgs are inefficient and such is the NHS. AFAIK, other western European countries have more efficient public-private partnerships.

Considering that the average contractor should have a reasonable IQ and be capable of rational thought I think this is the most laughable conclusion to jump to.

And they have more choice, you can pick your GP.

[/QUOTE]

I can pretty much pick my GP. Recently moved and I had three health centres close by containing around 30 GPs. I was assigned one at random but I can request to move GP any time I wish. The health centre even has forms dedicated to doing this if your not happy. Do not understand your point. Granted you have to stay within catchment areas but is that REALLY a big issue?

Locally I have a health centre that pretty much doing anything minor a hosptial does so I dont have to travel to town. My GP is also based there. There is a walk in centre in town and the hospital is a little further away. What more do I need ?

[sasguru]

Considering that the average contractor should have a reasonable IQ and be capable of rational thought I think this is the most laughable conclusion to jump to.

Given your claimed "reasonable IQ" (very reasonable I would say), do you really think that a country like the UK should really have the 3rd largest public sector organisation in the world administering its healthcare? (this is from the NHS website, they seem proud of it).
Do you suppose this is sustainable given the fact the UK economy has now been proven to rest on quicksand?
Or are you just another cretinous, gullible and stupid sockie?

[dx4100]

Given your claimed "reasonable IQ" (very reasonable I would say), do you really think that a country like the UK should really have the 3rd largest public sector organisation in the world administering its healthcare? (this is from the NHS website, they seem proud of it).
Do you suppose this is sustainable given the fact the UK economy has now been proven to rest on quicksand?
Or are you just another cretinous, gullible and stupid sockie?

Your calling me stupid while quoting numbers from 1997 and applying them to 2009

Deary me Your not worth my time

[Churchill]

Your calling me stupid while quoting numbers from 1997 and applying them to 2009

Deary me Your not worth my time

His "what" is calling you stupid?

His "what" isn't worth your time?

[dx4100]

His "what" is calling you stupid?

His "what" isn't worth your time?

yawn

[Churchill]

yawn

Your loss.

[dx4100]

Your loss.

Not really...

Epic fail on his behalf I feel. More to life than a bit of poor typing.