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Nine sacked for breaching core ID card database

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    #11
    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    The sample cards have very low level encryption and this story is just a rehash of ones that have been running for a few years. Sounds like a good story but really it is a pile of crap to keep daily mail readers frothing.
    I'm sorry, but I don't agree.

    When/if the real cards and readers are available in any numbers they will be cracked in a very short time.

    There's no such thing as uncrackable encryption and especially so in the case of something that has to be mass manufactured and read by relatively simple, portable and inexpensive devices.

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      #12
      Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
      Well any gestimates to how long the pucker cards will take to break??

      My guess is that it wont be too long....if you know what data is on your own card, thats half the battle, or failing that, it sounds easier to just get some Gov employee to look it up for you

      PZZ
      The cipher level they are going to? with about 50 years and the dedicated use of the world's biggest computer you might get there. The rest of the system may be a pile of crap but encryption on smart cards is a pretty easy thing to do right.

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        #13
        Originally posted by minestrone View Post
        The cipher level they are going to? with about 50 years and the dedicated use of the world's biggest computer you might get there. The rest of the system may be a pile of crap but encryption on smart cards is a pretty easy thing to do right.
        Surely the encryption on the card is the most secure thing about the whole system. As with all things, the weakness is at the human interface level.
        ‎"See, you think I give a tulip. Wrong. In fact, while you talk, I'm thinking; How can I give less of a tulip? That's why I look interested."

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          #14
          Originally posted by minestrone View Post
          The cipher level they are going to? with about 50 years and the dedicated use of the world's biggest computer you might get there. The rest of the system may be a pile of crap but encryption on smart cards is a pretty easy thing to do right.
          I cant say that I am convinced. What type of encryption are they planning to use??
          Im not sure that computing power comes into it, (inside) knowledge and luck has more of a chance.
          Im looking back at the music industry encryption that was supposed to be unbreakable, but only took 3 days and 5 lines of code to render it useless.

          Maybe I'll offer 10 grand to the person who comes up with the neatest hack and see if that speeds things a long a bit.


          PZZ

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            #15
            Originally posted by pzz76077 View Post
            I cant say that I am convinced. What type of encryption are they planning to use??

            "I admit I know nothing about it but I have definite opinions on it"

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              #16
              Originally posted by Moscow Mule View Post
              As with all things, the weakness is at the human interface level.
              Bingo! Why are people are talking about hacking the card? It is irrelevant to what the OP posted...
              Older and ...well, just older!!

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