People skills

[pzz76077]

I don't get paid. Sounds like you don't understand why companies hire contactors. Unless you are someone coming in for a few days to provide consultancy you are not more 'valuable' than a similarly experienced employee. Moreover, salary does not= total cost to the organisation, therefore you can engage a contractor on (apparently) 3 times as much yet in the long term they work out cheaper.

Im talking from my perspective- I get paid around 300k a year, my equivalent permie gets 100k, what this costs the company, I dont care- its not important to me and I spend no time thinking about it.

If you worry what you cost a client co, then continue to be a permie and kiss your line manger every morning.

PZZ

[Bagpuss]

Yeah Yeah, "you get paid"

[pzz76077]

Yeah Yeah, "you get paid"

Whats the point of being on here if you are a contractor that doesn't expect to get paid??

[TykeMerc]

Im talking from my perspective- I get paid around 300k a year, my equivalent permie gets 100k, what this costs the company, I dont care- its not important to me and I spend no time thinking about it.

That's quite ignorant and frankly you're missing a gigantic sales trick when you don't understand how to present real costs to a client.
Most permie managers have no real appreciation of what different types of staff cost in real terms to employ, in fact you'd have a hell of a time finding one outside of a corporate finance department that does. If you can explain that your rate is cheaper to pay than a permie on a decent salary you cut off a massive element of their argument and might in fact change the attitude of the manager to contractors in the long run.

[pzz76077]

That's quite ignorant and frankly you're missing a gigantic sales trick when you don't understand how to present real costs to a client.
Most permie managers have no real appreciation of what different types of staff cost in real terms to employ, in fact you'd have a hell of a time finding one outside of a corporate finance department that does. If you can explain that your rate is cheaper to pay than a permie on a decent salary you cut off a massive element of their argument and might in fact change the attitude of the manager to contractors in the long run.

You are talking complete bollocks.
Im a chartered accountant and know far better than any of my clients the 'real costs' and 'true value' of my services. I also retire (50) next April so have the right to assert may opinion in this case.

PZZ

[Bagpuss]

Im a chartered accountant and know far better than any of my clients PZZ

You sir are a bullsh**ter

Have a gig line up over there for 12+ months and am interested in hearing from anyone that has any information on ex-pat sites, taxation (the less the better obviously!), accommodation, what to watch out for etc.

Ive searched this BB and several others and not found too much in the way of useful information that is current and specifically orientated at an IT contractor-type audience.
(Note this post is asking for info on Austria NOT Australia!)

Thanks in advance,

PZZ

[TykeMerc]

You sir are a bullsh**ter

WHS + Infinity.

Frankly if you're a Chartered Accountant then Elvis and Jacko are alive and well and running a chip shop in Grimsby and I'm married to Jennifer Aniston and knocking off all of Girls Aloud on the side for entertainment on a wet afternoon.

[pzz76077]

WHS + Infinity.

Frankly if you're a Chartered Accountant then Elvis and Jacko are alive and well and running a chip shop in Grimsby and I'm married to Jennifer Aniston and knocking off all of Girls Aloud on the side for entertainment on a wet afternoon.

Any of these would be neat, but not ever likely in your case.

PZZ

[Bagpuss]

You're an IT contractor asking for advice on taxation OR a Chartered Accountant who does 12 month contracts in IT?

[pzz76077]

You're an IT contractor asking for advice on taxation OR a Chartered Accountant who does 12 month contracts in IT?

Both. What is your question??

PZZ