Ireland rules OK

[bogeyman]

Ah ha - thats where the Bulmers (Magners to you English boyos) Brewery is!

Hmm. Thanks for the info CM. I think we should pay a visit.

Have you been there? What's it like?

[cailin maith]

I honestly didn't realise there were too many places worse than M'cstr...well except perhaps Wigan, Burnley, Blackburn...and essentially all of East Lancashire not excluding Oldham and Rochdale.

Hmm..point taken.

Seriously, I like Manchester (******* hate Oldham with a vengence!). My home town is so one horse - Manchester is like a proper metropolis!

[cailin maith]

Hmm. Thanks for the info CM. I think we should pay a visit.

Have you been there? What's it like?

Clonmel is actually in Co Tipperary - right in the middle of the country. If you were driving from Dublin to Cork you could drive through. It's nice - lots of countryside. Rubbish roads mind, but then once yo get outside Dublin, all the "A" (we call them "N") roads are sh!te.

[bogeyman]

Clonmel is actually in Co Tipperary - right in the middle of the country. If you were driving from Dublin to Cork you could drive through. It's nice - lots of countryside. Rubbish roads mind, but then once yo get outside Dublin, all the "A" (we call them "N") roads are sh!te.

Not too bothered about the roads as would be a relaxed kind of visit.

What's Clonmel like? Don't spare my feelings. Accurate information is what I need.

[cailin maith]

Not too bothered about the roads as would be a relaxed kind of visit.

What's Clonmel like? Don't spare my feelings. Accurate information is what I need.

Ah - it's grand - it's just a small Irish town, lots of pubs and betting shops but fairly laid back! I've not been for a few years but I don't expect it's changed much, places like that don't usually! It's got the river which is nice too.

I'd say Kilkenny is the nearest big town and thats lovely - it's got a castle and stuff - really lovely.

[bogeyman]

Ah - it's grand - it's just a small Irish town, lots of pubs and betting shops but fairly laid back! I've not been for a few years but I don't expect it's changed much, places like that don't usually! It's got the river which is nice too.

I'd say Kilkenny is the nearest big town and thats lovely - it's got a castle and stuff - really lovely.

Thanks CM.

Where's your home town? (no, I'm not stalking you, honest).

[scooterscot]

Does this include Northern Ireland? They just kicked out a 100 Romanians - and the marches are starting..

[bogeyman]

Does this include Northern Ireland? They just kicked out a 100 Romanians - and the marches are starting..

Oddly, although I've known quite a few Norn Ironers from both communities, and got on well, I couldn't imagine going to NI out out of choice.

The Republic is, of course, a totally different scene. I like and always get on with Irish people - well so far. I'm sure they have their share of shytes and bastards, but people there seem very kind and friendly on the whole.

[Cliphead]

I moved to Donegal for a year to see how it would work out (my family are from there), was a great place but not to live. Very expensive and no broadband when I was there, they were still getting to grips with ISDN.

Unbelievable number of road deaths for such a small population, it got so I wouldn't drive on a Saturday night, sh1te roads & sh1te drivers are not a good combination.

Live music, beer, fantastic empty beaches, friendly, couldn't recommend it highly enough for a holiday.

[bogeyman]

I moved to Donegal for a year to see how it would work out (my family are from there), was a great place but not to live. Very expensive and no broadband when I was there, they were still getting to grips with ISDN.

Unbelievable number of road deaths for such a small population, it got so I wouldn't drive on a Saturday night, tulipe roads & tulipe drivers are not a good combination.

Live music, beer, fantastic empty beaches, friendly, couldn't recommend it highly enough for a holiday.

Thanks Cliphead. Interesting perspective.

I expect the broadband issue will be resolved in time, but more concerned about road carnage.

I guess you'd need to drive a lot there. I hate driving anyway.