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    #11
    Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I am sure that tradition had it that the position of Speaker was not contested by the party of the exiting Speaker. Am I right or did I dream this. If I am right what happened to that tradition?
    Perhaps the same way as the tradition of Policemen having to wear id, having an upper house that could curb the Commons from knee-jerk legislation, the right to trial by jury, habeus corpus, et cetera.
    My all-time favourite Dilbert cartoon, this is: BTW, a Dumpster is a brand of skip, I think.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Cyberman View Post
      True indeed !! She is the outstanding candidate with the general population though because she is straight with the people, a committed Christian, and greatly respected for her honesty and character.

      If Beckett gets the role it is going to turn a lot of people off Parliament until the next election, when she loses her seat for her refusal to repay her thousands of pounds of gardening costs that she charged to us.
      My MP bought a new freezer on his expenses. I've asked him, as I partilly funded the purchase if I can leave a bag of peas in it.
      Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.

      I preferred version 1!

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        #13
        Originally posted by TonyEnglish View Post
        My MP bought a new freezer on his expenses. I've asked him, as I partilly funded the purchase if I can leave a bag of peas in it.

        I wrote to my MP, Andrew Mackay to ask if I could use his second home that I was paying for, but then of course I found out that he didn't have a second home !!!

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          #14
          Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
          I am sure that tradition had it that the position of Speaker was not contested by the party of the exiting Speaker. Am I right or did I dream this. If I am right what happened to that tradition?
          Tradition had it that the position of Speaker was alternated between the two main parties. Labour stopped that when they railroaded Michael Martin (Lab) through in place of Betty Boothroyd (Lab).

          Also, the Speaker's constituency seat is uncontested at a general election, and after the general election the Speaker is re-elected unopposed by MPs in the Commons.

          I think I've got that lot right.

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
            I am sure that tradition had it that the position of Speaker was not contested by the party of the exiting Speaker. Am I right or did I dream this. If I am right what happened to that tradition?
            I don't think there was ever such a tradition. If anything, more speakers have been from the party in power than not, until recent years.

            'Old' Labour actually provided some excellent speakers that served under both Labour and Tory governments. i.e. George Thomas and Betty Boothroyd. They set their party allegiances aside and did a good job.

            As it appears that Labour are whipping for Beckett (so typical) you can pretty much be assured of the result.

            If Beckett is elected as speaker, it will be a sound indication that Parliament has not yet tired of pissing in the face of the electorate
            Last edited by bogeyman; 22 June 2009, 12:14. Reason: sp.

            You've come right out the other side of the forest of irony and ended up in the desert of wrong.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
              Tradition had it that the position of Speaker was alternated between the two main parties. Labour stopped that when they railroaded Michael Martin (Lab) through in place of Betty Boothroyd (Lab).

              Also, the Speaker's constituency seat is uncontested at a general election, and after the general election the Speaker is re-elected unopposed by MPs in the Commons.

              I think I've got that lot right.
              I believe that's a sort of long-standing informal agreement between the main parties but I don't think there's anything constitutionally to enforce it.

              I think it's bad as it disenfranchises the speakers constituents.

              Also, nothing could prevent an independent from standing in the speakers constituency.

              You've come right out the other side of the forest of irony and ended up in the desert of wrong.

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                #17
                Originally posted by bogeyman View Post
                I believe that's a sort of long-standing informal agreement between the main parties but I don't think there's anything constitutionally to enforce it.

                I think it's bad as it disenfranchises the speakers constituents.

                Also, nothing could prevent an independent from standing in the speakers constituency.
                Fair point, but traditionally that has been taken into account so that the Speaker is a longstanding member of parliament with a large majority, so their constituency is unlikely to vote them out anyway. But this mob have been ignoring the better traditions and reinforcing the stupid ones for the last 10 years, so expect to see horse-face in the chair.
                Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                  #18
                  I reckon if it is another NLite the Tories should front a candidate in whoevers seat it is. One break with tradition deserves another.
                  I am not qualified to give the above advice!

                  The original point and click interface by
                  Smith and Wesson.

                  Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
                    I reckon if it is another NLite the Tories should front a candidate in whoevers seat it is. One break with tradition deserves another.
                    The tories are just as bad....they wanted Frank Field before he announced he wouldn't stand last week largely because it would upset labour. More stupid playground games. None of these people are fit to govern - we should boot the whole lot out and start again.
                    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by PM-Junkie View Post
                      Fair point, but traditionally that has been taken into account so that the Speaker is a longstanding member of parliament with a large majority, so their constituency is unlikely to vote them out anyway. But this mob have been ignoring the better traditions and reinforcing the stupid ones for the last 10 years, so expect to see horse-face in the chair.
                      Trough

                      Correct though. Parliamentary traditions mean nothing to NL if they don't fit in with the master plan.

                      You've come right out the other side of the forest of irony and ended up in the desert of wrong.

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