First the nationalists, now the communists

[TimberWolf]

But that would cut into the profits made by the capitalists...

I'm all for having a "Social Conscience", but come on!!!

You never know they [those on an increased minimum wage] might even be able to afford to pay their full council taxes and come off tax credits. In effect these state aids are subsidising filling the bosses pockets, no?

[Pickle2]

Sounds a great plan to me. I will do nothing all day and earn the same as someone who works their nuts off.

Exactly how it works around here.

[The Lone Gunman]

I don't know the BNP that well, I am surprised that the membership is only open to white europeans!
1) That would be illegal.
2) They should not call them nationalists in that case.

After some research, it appears that it indeed only allows white members at the moment:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2004/aug/01/uk.race

bloody hell, isn't it anti-constitutional?
It should be enough to ban the party no?

Apparently they are fully legal.

** NOTE: You would have to be particularly naieve if you believe any of the other nationalist parties are any different. They may claim otherwise and we may not be able to disprove their claims, but most of the European nationalist parties are white supremacist.

The SNP is a notable exception

[Mich the Tester]

Sounds a great plan to me. I will do nothing all day and earn the same as someone who works their nuts off.

post on CUK

considerably more than

[Le Rosbif]

Apparently they are fully legal.

** NOTE: You would have to be particularly naieve if you believe any of the other nationalist parties are any different. They may claim otherwise and we may not be able to disprove their claims, but most of the European nationalist parties are white supremacist.

The SNP is a notable exception

I've been to several meetings of the National Front in France.
You can see blacks, arabs, asians.

Actually the National Front was the first party to present an arab to MPs election... in 1958
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Djebbour

Farid Smahi is a member of the political bureau
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farid_Smahi

I might be "naive", but it appears that stating that "most nationalist parties are racist" without backing such a strong statement with proofs is quite... easy

[Moscow Mule]

You never know they [those on an increased minimum wage] might even be able to afford to pay their full council taxes and come off tax credits. In effect these state aids are subsidising filling the bosses pockets, no?

There's a simple way to cure these ills - set the income tax & NI threshold at the NMW (for a full working week/52 weeks a year) and scrap tax credits.

Leave those on benefits £50 a week worse off than those in full time work.

You instantly take millions out of taxation - thereby reducing administration costs to the public & private sectors, and actually give a reason to get off benefits. .

[expat]

I don't know the BNP that well, I am surprised that the membership is only open to white europeans!
1) That would be illegal.
2) They should not call them nationalists in that case.

After some research, it appears that it indeed only allows white members at the moment:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2004/aug/01/uk.race

bloody hell, isn't it anti-constitutional?
It should be enough to ban the party no?

BNP Constitution, Section 2: MEMBERSHIP

Sub-section 3: Membership of the party shall be open only to those who are 16 years of age or over and whose ethnich origin is listed within Sub-section 2.

Sub-section 2: The indiginous British ethnic groups deriving from the class of 'Indiginous Caucasian'[listed: essentially Anglo-Saxon and Celtic].

[Le Rosbif]

BNP Constitution, Section 2: MEMBERSHIP

Sub-section 3: Membership of the party shall be open only to those who are 16 years of age or over and whose ethnich origin is listed within Sub-section 2.

Sub-section 2: The indiginous British ethnic groups deriving from the class of 'Indiginous Caucasian'[listed: essentially Anglo-Saxon and Celtic].

In what century do they live?

[DodgyAgent]

I don't agree with that statement one bit but it's worth pointing out that the societies with the happiest populations are the ones where the wealth gap is the smallest.

So in communist Russia and todays North Korea this is where the people were/are the happiest?

[DodgyAgent]

Yeah fair enough, we need to create opportunities to bring the lowest paid out of poverty, and we need to ensure that the highest paid don't increase their wealth at the expense of the majority.

However Marxism is not the answer.

Believe it or not the wealth of an economy is not static, so reducing the wealth of the rich does not mean that the poor will have more money.