No wonder car sales have plummeted!

[sasguru]

Have you actually driven a 3 series?

http://www.channel4.com/4car/rt/bmw/...ouring/24641/2





That will explain why people pay a large premium for it.

HTH

Yes I have driven a 3 series and its very good. Not as brilliant as Mazda 6 MPS though, which is more like the M3. And if you want to pay a massive premium to get a car that everyone else has, you must be thick as pigtulip

I prefere the anonymity of a real Q-car.

Back to the point, I too have found negotiating with the dealers impossible. As Dim says there are very few new cars around as the factories have reduced output and surprisingly for the more popular cars demand seems to be greater than supply - or so it seems.

[DimPrawn]

It says a lot about you sasguru if you think the Mazda 6 MPS is like a 420 BHP M3 that hits 62 MPH in 4.6 seconds.

[sasguru]

It says a lot about you sasguru if you think the Mazda 6 MPS is like a 420 BHP M3 that hits 62 MPH in 4.6 seconds.

After a certain point, acceleration and speed become pointless. Especially in the UK, its not like we have autobahns.

So you can pay double for a car that is 1.4 seconds faster to 60 mph and has 420 horses that you will never use.

But I dare say if you are compensating for something, you'll feel better that you have it.

[Churchill]

After a certain point, acceleration and speed become pointless. Especially in the UK, its not like we have autobahns.

So you can pay double for a car that is 1.4 seconds faster to 60 mph and has 420 horses that you will never use.

But I dare say if you are compensating for something, you'll feel better that you have it.

Funny how you keep bringing this up... Something you wish to tell?

Btw, BMW drivers are twats.

[Menelaus]

Funny how you keep bringing this up... Something you wish to tell?

Btw, BMW drivers are twats.

WHS

+1

[The Lone Gunman]

Btw, BMW drivers are twats.

From my observation the twat baton has been passed from BMW drivers to Audi drivers.
Most of the twats are younger hooligan with money types. BMW used to be weapon of choice, but as more and more movies have shown the getaway driver recommending Audis the twats heve moved on to them coz they is gangstas innit!









I know you have an audi and am not suggesting for on eminute that you are a twat. I think yours rises above the twat league.

[Churchill]

From my observation the twat baton has been passed from BMW drivers to Audi drivers.
Most of the twats are younger hooligan with money types. BMW used to be weapon of choice, but as more and more movies have shown the getaway driver recommending Audis the twats heve moved on to them coz they is gangstas innit!

I think the BMW thing comes from the fact that years ago it was the car that all thrusting young execs(Thatchers Barrow Boys) wanted to drive as their company car. They were the aforementioned twats.

[The Lone Gunman]

I think the BMW thing comes from the fact that years ago it was the car that all thrusting young execs(Thatchers Barrow Boys) wanted to drive as their company car. They were the aforementioned twats.

I agree, every yuppie worth his salt wanted a better beemer than the next. I still think it was based on the "bad boy" image that (at the time) was associated with BMWs.

[Menelaus]

I agree, every yuppie worth his salt wanted a better beemer than the next. I still think it was based on the "bad boy" image that (at the time) was associated with BMWs.

http://bumperstickers.cafepress.com/...0-pk/261795302

WHS (note above).

I had a t-shirt with that logo when I was a 17-year old A-level student in 1987. **** do I feel old

[Moscow Mule]

The only real idiot drivers I see round our way are taxi drivers (you call tell by the TfL sticker on the back) with knackered saloons & people carriers driving as if they are playing Mario Kart.